Re: NC7WZ17 schmitt

Aug 31, 2022 Last reply: 4 years ago 4 Replies
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>>>>> Nobody but the grey market folks has any stock. Mouser is expecting 12
>>>>> parts in February 2024.
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>>>>> Cheers
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>>>>> Phil Hobbs
>>>> WinSource has plenty. They are based in Hong Kong, but so what. Most
>>>> semiconductors are made in China anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you have to worry about counterfeits, but you can get them from
>>>> anywhere. That's the reason for using Mouser or Digi-Key for production. >>>>
>>>> Texas Instruments has a drop-in replacement that is readily available, but
>>>> it is pricey:
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>>> 16791 in stock, US$0.0884 for 1000+
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>> Would be worth checking out, but there's no guarantee they're fast like
>> the ones JL posted. The onsemi ones were several times faster than the
>> datasheet limit.
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> the SN74LVC2G17 datasheet list 2.2ns/5.4ns min/max @ 3.3V and 1.5ns/4.3ns min/max @ 5V -40'C-85'C, 50pf/500R
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> the NC7WZ17 datasheet list 7.3ns max @3.3V and 6.2ns max @5V with no minimums -40'C-85'C, 50pf/500R
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> so on paper Johns part look slower, but who knows

His pictures are showing 600 ps edges. Some LVDS line receivers are faster--my late fave FIN1018 is around 400 ps.


Cheers



Phil Hobbs



This tiny flop is crazy:

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Prop delay is spec'd 1 ns typ.

yeh, seems the datasheet is barely half the story

and the datasheet on TI site say Tpd 1ns min @5V for the 74LVC2G17 and 0.7ns min @5V for the 74LVC1G17

Interesting that the rise is so much faster than the fall--128 ps vs.

400 ps. Since the NFETs are faster than the PFETs, one gathers that it has more to do with the turn-off time than the turn-on.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

the datasheet also list slightly lower dropout for Voh than Vol

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