I still haven't seen anyone call McClellan a liar.
I still haven't seen anyone call McClellan a liar.
I still haven't seen anyone call McClellan a liar.
That's because he is not a liar. Everything he says is backed up by facts, by others and by the results of the war. It ain't rocket science folks. Most of us knew all along the whole premise was BS from the get go.
And Now, the bastards are floating the same crap about Iran. Are we stupid enough to fall for the flim flam yet again. I hope not.
The Administration is in the stuck pig mode. They're like little kids with their fingers in the cookie jar squealing like hell that somebody told on them. History is not being kind to Bush and his neocons, that's for sure. There's more to come.
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(2) I'm perfectly fine with standing out of the way while Iran lobs _one_ at Israel... then Israel decimates all of Arabia... RIP ;-)
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How mature and statesmanlike of you.
I doubt that D&W will let the oil supply be that threatened.
Snip the repug whine......
Me too. Maybe it's time for Israel to stop hiding behind the skirts of the US. If they have a problem with Iran or anybody else, they should take care of it. We should stay the hell out of it. That doesn't mean we shouldn't support them or sell them hardware, but we should not do their fighting for them.
Some think that's one of the major reasons we got rid of Saddam, for Israel, but we didn't get much out of the deal now did we?
Actually since Iran is the big winner in the Iraq war, anything we did to help Israel has backfired big time. Israel is far worse off with a Shiite Iraq allied with Iran than before.
Be careful what you wish for, you might get it.
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Iran has a weak presidency and many opposing factions in the government. The only thing that is likely to unite them would be an external threat or attack. Barring that they are trending towards being a democracy and have been for quite a while.
Absolutely! But we need to keep the pressure on "President" Imanutjob to keep the nuclear proliferation in check, until the moderates retake control.
But the real nut jobs are Richard Henry and Bob Eld ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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As far as I know, he's little more than a figurehead, and may've hinted at this publicly. Democracy doesn't mean squat with the Ayyatolah on top.
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The case for Iran wanting to make atomic bombs is weak. The number show that in perhaps 10 years time Iran will no longer be a net energy exporter so they have a valid reason to want atomic power. Some of their religeous folks have called atomic weapons a moral outrage. This would make developing them politically risky. The leason of N. Korea vs Iraq may not be seen to apply in Iran. All in all we need to tread carefully so as to make sure they never do have a motive for getting an atomic bomb.
But you are assuming that the religeous folks have control. They have veto power only and that could be gone in a flash if they over use it. They are in the situation of a general who dare not give certain orders because he knows his troop won't obey them.
I am getting something i repeatedly wished against. Corporations telling territorial nations to go f* them selves, and making nations do each other to the corporate's profit.
Backup? Check both treaties.
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No, and there is probably little in his book that has not been known for some time. He just made it a little clearer.
The republicans are making a lot of noise about it. This ensures that it sells lots of copies. From the reviews I've read nothing in it is really news and it has a little of the "don't blame me" spin put on things.
Do you have URLs for them? All I'm familiar with is the agreements behind our basing equipment in Saudi Arabia.
Some how, I doubt we'd just stand by while our bases get clobbered by Israel, or anybody else, regardless of treaty commitments.
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