proper response?

Yup. That's yours truly ;-)

...Jim Thompson

John Larkin snipped-for-privacy@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com posted to sci.electronics.design:

I find some fault with you for even hiring him, disrespect like respect is earned.

Not sure what you mean here. There two respect issues here, one for your engineering, the other for you being the boss. The first is earnable, the second is cannonic.

Agreed.

And disrespect is not so fine in a new hire.

Maybe switch important to impertinent.

Rich Grise snipped-for-privacy@example.net posted to sci.electronics.design:

Yes, it applies intra-organizationally as well as inter-organizationally.

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

Lucky man.

Robert H.

I think people who drive cars should encourage bicycling.

I commute by bicycle. If I wasn't riding a bike, I'd be driving an old klunker and cluttering up your lane.

Can you get your local cops to give them a ticket?

One good way to say thanks is to not drag your feet when they ask you to check their design.

Sometimes it helps to have a party to check all the details. I remember one session where we had a half dozen people and a big pile of data sheets and schematics and net-lists and ...

Most of the work was done in pairs - one person reading stuff off the net list and another checking that the signal name made sense on the data sheet.

The environment was good. It got better when the project manager brought in pizza. :)

Unless you do a lot of designs so you have already tested them, you also have to double check the library parts you just created.

For small boards, blowing up the gerbers to fill a whole sheet makes them a lot easier to read. (my eyes are old) It's easy to semi-automate after you figure out how to do it.

"John Larkin" skrev i en meddelelse news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

Well - as we say 'round 'ere: A Volvo is an inverted hedgehog - the pricks are on the inside!

That sounds like a lot of duplication of effort. The parts library should be well verified beforehand, both in schematic entry and the PCB layout. You should have reason to be confident in the DRC verification of the schematic to layout verification as well as its other features like finding shorts or illegal connections like output to output, as well as all the other physical rules checking, if not, you should be using another product. This leaves only two sources of human error: a bad schematic or bad routing vulnerable to crosscoupling or some other kind of interference or possibly abuse of a component.

No respect is not disrespect.

Respect and disrespect are both 'earned'.

RL

Why do you say "Lucky" ??

...Jim Thompson

I work at home, but the typical commute around here is probably 20-30 miles.

I'm working on it.

...Jim Thompson

And then there's the Toyota Pious, trailing choking clouds of smug.

John

Yup. Design is an emotional activity, so attitude is everything.

We create all our own parts, and we do check them at least twice the first time they appear on a board. We're more likely to get the pcb decal not-quite-perfect, than the pinout wrong.

We never check gerbers. We do look over the board pretty hard while still in in PADS, with pretty colors, especially for signal integrity and mechanical issues. PADS seems to handle connectivity and design rule checks perfectly, and makes correct gerbers every time.

John

And thermal issues. And layout cosmetics.

John

Sno-o-o-o-ort! Good one, John!

...Jim Thompson

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God damn you can be dense.

Nah, his simple and basic wish is to run his mouth because he's entertained by the responses.

Most people, including cyclists, are simply going to see a feeble old man with an ignorant and bad attitude. He'll mostly be laughed at -- those are the responses he doesn't see/hear. None of those people will know Jim is a talented engineer. None could care less. And it is because it really doesn't matter.

You might want to hold off on PADS2007 for a bit then. There's been some complaining on the support forum about incorrect Gerber's in some situations. I'll see if I can find the comments if you're interested.

Robert H.

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

That work situation wasn't accidental?

Robert H.

Ignorant/rude responses, such as yours, ensure that I will use my legal muscle to require licenses and enforce citations.

So there, you f*ck-head ;-)

...Jim Thompson