Power opamp.. output "near" the rails.

Jun 09, 2016 13 Replies

Hi all, browsing power opamps at DK. I need something with at least 300mA of output current at least +/- 5V power supplies, and with an output that will get within a volt of the rails. I've used the rail-rail opa569, but not enough voltage. The OPA561 looks like it would work... "not recommended for new designs".

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replaced with the opa564,
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Which at the moment looks like the only "winner".



Anything else I might look at?



George H. (Apex parts need not apply.)



(the LT1970 might work... separate output supply pins, but I couldn't find the spec for the voltage drop on the output... it's also LT-spendy.)



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You might parallel a bunch of these

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It's a cheap little rail-to-rail amplifier, but the output stage can deliver quite a lot of current - 80mA. Put a quad package's worth - MC33204 - in parallel and you might get your 300mA.

The quad costs a a couple of dollars in small quantities, and Farnell/Newark seem to have plenty. Joerg wouldn't like it, but your customers have deeper pockets.

Bill Sloman, Sydney

What about this bad boy right here?

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Or bootstrap the supply rails? Or both?

Hmm OK thanks Bill, the power opamps I'm looking at are ~$5 so price is OK. It will have to dissipate ~1 Watt (worse case) (I forgot to share that spec.) I was looking for something with a thermal power pad or similar.

George H.

I've got that bad boy in my parts box... never used. It might have to dissipate 1W.. which makes me a little nervous.

I'm not sure what you mean by boot strapping the supply rails?

George H.

TCA0372, dual 1 amp, 45 cents.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics

Golly Mr. Wizard, good suggestion!

By Apex, are you referring to a specific trade mark or something else?

What is your frequency response requirement ?

Some amplifier for low voltages use voltage amplifier output stages (not emitter followers) so you get close to rail to rail.

An car audio amp would work with at least +/- 7 V and would deliver sufficient currents for your requirements.

We've used them in several products, and they seem well behaved. Not c-load stable, but you can work around that.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Oh sorry, Apex makes HV and power opamps. They were part of my digikey search. I had some bad luck with one of their HV opamps and I've scratched them off my list... well unless I need them again in the future :^) They are spendy too.

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Yeah frequency is modest, DC to 10k Hz. Actually this thread should be stopped. I made a mistake in my power calculation and the I can run this off 15 volts rails with lots of head room, ~2W of dissipation. and a power opamp in stock (opa544). (I multiplied 0.2 by 10 and got 5... go figure.)

George H.

This is driving a coil. What sort of power dissipation?

George H.

Driving coils dynamically can get nasty, because it can put an opamp into a high-dissipation quadrant. Better Spice it.

Here's a TCA0372 acting as a programmable power supply with loat of capacitance in the loads. The real thing will use DACs instead of pots.

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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Hmm... this is fairly low frequency (DC - 10 kHz.) I'm not even sure of the coil parameter, R = 10 ohms, air coil. Can I guesstimate a problem frequency as when I get above the L/R time?

It's someone else's design, I was laying out the circuit and thinking about worse case power dissipation. (which I screwed up.)

George H.

So use a handful of single or dual parts. One watt spread across several packages isn't going to be a problem.

One watt at 300mA is a 3.3V drop. A resistive load to ground from +/-5V supplies would give a peak dissipation in the op amp at +/-2.5V times 150mA which is 0.375W.

You spec did need more detail.

Bill Sloman, Sydney

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