PIr motion sensors

Aug 17, 2013 5 Replies

Hi,



Is it safe to ASSUME that PIr motion sensors AC couple the "signal" to the detector?



I.e., that a "cold" shadow passing across the grating will be detected just like a "warm" shadow would?


Yes they are inherently AC coupled.

I would guess that "hot" and "cold" polarity signals will be treated the same.

Mike Perkins Video Solutions Ltd www.videosolutions.ltd.uk

Yes. They detect the changes, so the can also be seen in the signal.

-- Mikko

Your average porch light sensor uses a segmented Fresnel lens that casts about a dozen images of everything in its field of view, and a split sensor with the two halves wired in inverse parallel and the cut line running vertically.

Any basically vertical thing that moves through the FOV thus produces about a dozen cycles of AC, which is buffered by a JFET follower and detected by a rectifier. (It's a very clever design, really.)

A cold vertical object will do the same thing with a 180 degree phase shift, so it will trigger fine.

Things that are too close, or that occupy too large a field of view, don't work as well.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 USA +1 845 480 2058 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

Ah, I didn't realize the sensor was split! I had thought the sensor's output would have a rather slow filter on it and the "live feed" compared against that (counting on the mechanical chopping of a "moving heat source" to generate a detectable "difference")

Or, that move too slowly, apparently (hence the reason I assumed the implementation that I did). Or, along the "wrong" axis.

I had worked on a custom chip RFQ that worked along the lines you mention. An additional channel was to sense a dummy PIR. Seemed like overkill, but as they say, not my job to ask why.

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