Interesting idea, turning a bug into a feature like that--the JFET's C_GS becomes a coupling capacitor instead of a shunt. I'll have to try it out.
Here's one of the variations I've been playing with (this one doesn't have realistic parasitics, but putting those in makes a really ugly schematic).
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Whoops, that one references a library. Here's a version with an output stage and all the parts included in the .asc file. Hopefully it survives line wrapping--it's also available at
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Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
The other thing I was thinking was to keep the gate current of the phemt out of the input node.
Do you have any data on gate current and gate current noise vs frequency for that phemt? The data sheets sure don't.
Hey, I just got handed the first build of a new laser driver. This one can put 300 amps into a 25 volt bar laser, close to 8 kilowatts. It has the analog-multiplier fet SOAR protection, the realtime simulation of fet junction temperature. There's a tiny Zetex nickel RTD under one of those heat sinks.
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The Brat does beautiful layouts.
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The gate current is a few hundred pA near I_DSS, iirc. The 1/f corner is about 10 MHz, and the gate current noise is small even in the 1/f region.
The bad news is that those Avago things have drain impedances of like
150 ohms or something horrible like that, so they absolutely have to be cascoded if you're going to use them as a voltage amp. Cascoding them with SiGe:C NPNs is a big win--the very low emitter impedance fixes the wet-spaghetti drain, and the huge VAF lets you run a large voltage gain in one stage.
The Skyworks SKY65050 pHEMTs that I have exhibit zero gate current at some slightly depleted bias like -100 mV, which is weird but potentially useful. They also have dramatically higher drain impedances. They're a little noisier everywhere, like 0.45 nV vs 0.35, but their major drawback is that their 1/f corner is around 60 MHz.
Very pretty!
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
This is intended to drive bar lasers from, say, 20 us to as much as a millisecond maybe. Like for pumping YAGs or something. Rise/fall times are in the 5 us range, pretty slow. At 300 amps, we'll be discharging the caps fast, not to mention toasting the fets.
The usual YAGs have a fluorescence lifetime of something like 250 us, so there's no advantage to pumping them for longer.
It's a constant-current driver, so the current pulses are very, very flat.
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Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom laser drivers and controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation
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