OT: Storm in a Teacup

That question says it all. At one time "America" was for "Americans", not those European immigrants that came to fight and make trouble for everyone.

It's a bit funny really. Australia was largely settled by criminals from England. They have nothing on those who settled the US.

Rick C.

As a repair person I can say that when people design with off-the-shelf parts it is easier to keep the product going. Mind you my idea of a product kept going is something that is 40+ years on, but is still useful tech. For example the Fluke 9010/9100 series test gear. Very handy for servicing legacy 8 & 16 bit micro controlled systems of which a lot abound.

However the 9100 used their own transformer for one set of power voltages and it shorted out because they didn't think to fuse it. The Xformer died because a -12VDC rectified output had a surface mount tantalum cap that shorted out. I am advising owners of the 9100 to add a

300ma fuse in series with the inductor for the B+ side of this little switcher.

I have had to send it off to a fellow who rewinds Xformers professionally to disassemble and repair. It is a simple little 35kHz switcher, so not too serious, but still, if it had been off-the-shelf it might have been still possible to find it more quickly. In this case it is a spare unit of mine, so no rush.

Custom design may make sense, but doesn't always make cents.

Indeed, no one has gotten around to arresting Mrs. H. Clinton - and wasn't that going to be his first and most important piece of business when he got in??

Along with not having time to play golf because he would be too busy running the country...

And still doesn't deliver today.

John

It surprises me that people criticise Bill Clinton more for what he did with his nether regions than getting rid of those regulations. It is a textbook case of "those that don't remember history are condemned to repeat it".

Getting rid of those regulations gave a short-term boom but also caused BC's real legacy to become apparent a decade later.

So people should wait a decade before proclaiming Trump a triumph.

America is where you'll find millions of very generously 3rd generation Irish and Scots-Irish blithering on about patriotism and revolutions and the Constitution and Founding Fathers and all that as if anyone in their lineage was doing anything but failing to farm potatoes in the Old World at the time these things were occurring

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England. They have nothing on those who settled the US.

Australia wasn't "largely settled by criminals from England".

Convicts were the biggest single group of immigrants for the first 50 years (from 1788 to about 1840) but you didn't have to be particularly criminal to get sentenced to transportation - about half those transported had had n o previous convictions. From about 1830 free settlers started out-numbering tranported convicts, and now only about 20% of the Australian population h as any convict ancestors.

Since transportation stopped in 1868, we are talking about great-grandparen ts here and everybody has eight of them.

The place might have been initially settled by convicts, but once regular i mmigration got under way the convicts got swamped.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

I said that once about an individual in this group and Obama. Others repli ed that I was calling him racist. So are you calling those who don't like Trump racists?

approving of Trump. John Larkin doesn't understand any of them, but he doe sn't understand rational argument, and confuses it with an emotional reacti on.

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th an emotional reaction. He can't do rational thinking, so that fact that he can't recgonise it when he stumbles over it isn't altogether surprisng.

f he slings together he'd probably be able realise that it makes more sense to design a transformer for a specific job (and get it wound) than it does to try to shoehorn in some arbitrary transformer (designed for some other job) tha he can buy from a dstributor.

When I designed my current product some 10 years ago, I also built a custom test fixture. More recently we have had some failures with the test fixtu re and only five (originally) working copies. I've wondered if it would be easier to provide a test fixture that just provides power and connection p oints for off the shelf test gear like a pattern generator? At this point until we are down to one test fixture I can't see making the investment. B ut had I originally used test equipment rather than a fully custom test fix ture, the code could be portable to newer units and I might never need to r evisit the test fixture issue.

Yeah, but in many cases with high enough volume, custom can make both sense and cents.

But, but, but while he was still President-elect he said the Clintons were "good" people and that talk of jailing them was just campaign rhetoric, vir tually HIS words.

Really? Does anyone care if he plays golf?

Rick C.

If changing the regulations was such a bad idea, why didn't the next administration change them back? Oh, only *after* the crisis some years after Clinton was out of power and Bush was in? I guess we all have 20-20 hindsight.

What's really interesting is that anyone would have the balls to repeat the process just 10 years later! I guess Trump figures he'll be out of office by the time the crap hits the fan and he can blame it all on someone else.

Rick C.

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Dude, you are strange. First you say I was wrong and immediately acknowled ge the fact is true...

portation - about half those transported had had no previous convictions. F rom about 1830 free settlers started out-numbering tranported convicts, and now only about 20% of the Australian population has any convict ancestors.

Then you try to say while they were convicts they weren't really bad... for the most part...

ents here and everybody has eight of them.

Then you talk about lineage...

immigration got under way the convicts got swamped.

Then more confirmation that I was right...

All the while completely missing my point.

Rick C.

It wasn't Clinton who got rid of those regulations - the banks and other financial institutions had been chipping away at them for many years.

Clinton was just around for the last stage of the process. He certainly didn't drive it.

Probably unnecessary advice. Nobody in their right mind is ever going to see Trump as a triumph - he looks more like an accident in progress, and the only interesting question is the magnitude of the consequent damage.

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Australia was largely settled by free settlers, mostly from the UK. They on ly started arriving in volume some thirty years after the first of the conv icts, but then rapidly swamped them.

Australia didn't exist as a nation until 1901, so the question of where the population of the new nation had come from has to be snap-shot of what it was at that time. The initial population was 3,773,801 people, and the tota l number of convicts ever transported there was 163,021, which means that t he convicts were never a large proportion of any population which could be labelled Australian.

nsportation - about half those transported had had no previous convictions. From about 1830 free settlers started out-numbering transported convicts, and now only about 20% of the Australian population has any convict ancesto rs.

or the most part...

Any crime that would have lead to a criminal conviction would have got them hung.

The people who were transported were guilty of misdemeanors, rather than fe lonies.

arents here and everybody has eight of them.

If only 20% of today's population has a convict ancestor, it clearly isn't descended from a "largely criminal" population.

ar immigration got under way the convicts got swamped.

About what?

Which you don't seem to be able to articulate.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

It wasn't that they were failing to farm potatoes, rather it was a potato blight that caused mass starvation.

It is all in how you say things, your statement suggested they were simply lazy, mine suggests they had no control over their single food source crop and a catastrophe forced them off the land to the 'New World'.

And the 'good' folks in North America weren't happy about all those shiftless immigrants, forcing them to take on jobs that no one else wanted, cops, sanitation workers, etc. Although most seem to have done OK in the end, some were criminals and caused problems...

Sound familiar?

John

The British nobility owned most of the land, and most Irish were poor tenant farmers. Ireland exported food during the famines.

Sounds like we should be careful about who we let into the USA. Most other countries are. Canada has some pretty serious requirements.

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lunatic fringe electronics

Right now, and for the past few years, EUrope has been happily accepting

*anyone* who cares to make the trip, regardless of their background. The EU is not selective about quality. They'll take in anyone and to hell with the consequences! What we badly need here is someone like Mr. Trump.

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Not only off-the-shelf, but multi-sourced. End-of-life parts problems are a big pain lately.

Sloman seems to enjoy winding transformers. I have probably designed

30x as many as he has, but I don't enjoy it. It's so much easier to buy a reel from Digikey.

Here are a few of mine:

I want to make that last one have a D-shaped cross section to increase the thermal footprint into the gap-pad. We'll wind the first few on a lathe and then press them in a little fixture to get the flat part. This is hugely labor intensive, but this is important. For production quantities we'll send it out to be wound.

What did that cost?

It is a simple little 35kHz

At very high volume, and unusual specs, it can make sense. But any custom transformer will take a lot of engineering and purchasing, and take a long time to get into production.

Well, he does own golf resorts. Obama didn't.

I love to stay at golf resorts, but I don't golf.

It is arguable that anyone who has to make important decisions needs exercize to keep their brain working well. I sure do.

Economics has various time constants, some measured in generations. Causalities are not obvious.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 

lunatic fringe electronics

Certain cynics have argued that American capitalism is the process by which men attempt to concentrate resources to flagrantly spend it all on suburban white women of average quality. Wife wrecks the Benz? Get a new one. Get ten!

Socialism for blondes:

One thing that people-importing countries should do is physically disperse immigrants, and make sure they have local, personal sponsors to help merge them into the culture. Large clusters of un-assymilated immigrants can be bad news.

There is some sort of cultural guilt going on in many places, almost a desire for self-destruction of traditional national cultures.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 

lunatic fringe electronics

Ten wives? That would be confusing.

But it's not capitalism, nature generally works that way. Males use power and wealth as allure, females use health and beauty. It's all about breeding success.

Henry Kissinger, not exactly a heart-throb, said that power is the ultimate aphrodisiac. Trump said the same thing, less delicately.

Looks good. Mo would like it. Maybe it's on Netflix.

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lunatic fringe electronics

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Well maybe when it's cheaper in a few years. I feel I know a lot of those stories. (I live in Trump country.) What I find amazing is Trumps approval numbers. He's been flat at ~42% and 52% +/- 2%... whether he does good or bad it doesn't change. That seems different to me.

George H.

Exactly the same, mutatis mutandis, is true for the Trump lovers.