OT: Inter-state shipping regulations in your country?

Some states play a "presence" rule. If there's some Amazon facility in NY, NY'ers have to pay sales tax, irrespective of the actual shipping point.

Here, in AZ, I hardly _ever_ pay sales tax:

"Unless otherwise noted, items are sold by Amazon.com LLC and taxed if shipped to Kansas, North Dakota, New York, Kentucky or Washington. Please note that your order contains one or more items from an Amazon.com partner and may be subject to state and local sales tax, depending on the state to which the item is being shipped. For more tax and seller information, visit:

It apparently also has to be a "shipping" facility. Their security division is in my home town of Huntington, WV ...Jim Thompson

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It was Rajiv Gandhi, during his term as Prime Minister of India, who started the trend towards liberalisation in a hitherto narrow socialist environment, but then he was murdered. We're seeing glimmers of light here and there, but we still have a long way to go.

Not my area of expertise, but AFAIK, foreign trade is controlled by the central government.

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in EU it is different, you pay sales tax where it is shipped from. unless the company is registret in both countries then you pay where it is shipped to.

Though I think there is a limit to how much business a company can have with a country and still do it like that, to avoid someone taking advantage of countries with lower saletax

doesn't the usually no tax on stuff bought on the internet within the US come from from some special internet tax law under Clinton?

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I figured as much. Taxes are a mess everywhere. ;-) More so, here. :-(

Right. You have a "Value Added" tax, which is a tax on the seller. A "Sales Tax" is actually a tax on the buyer, though usually collected by the seller. This is a technical difference but one that does have real consequences.

A VAT makes a whole lot more sense than a sales tax, except that a sales tax is a lot more visible, hence harder to hide. Politicians much prefer taxes that are easy to hide (hence their love for the "withholding tax", above).

No, that's an entirely different issue, though often confused even here. That was intended to be a ban on taxes on Internet commerce, and was intended to ban taxes on ISP services and items SOLD and DELIVERED over the Internet, as in software or services delivered electronically. It's hard to ship physical stuff through the phone lines, but if you could that ban would apply. ;-)

Correct. They've filed to do business in NY and by doing so, they've agreed to collect NY sales tax.

Same here in AL. Even one brick-and-mortar store I buy from here, I don't pay AL sales tax on stuff ordered over the Internet. The "local" store is a franchisee of the mothership and a completely different corporation.

Perhaps some sort of "selling" or customer face. IBM collects sales tax in all 50 states, though it certainly doesn't ship from all. It does have sales or service offices in all, though.

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But our situation is different.

I drove by AZ, but not staying long enough to setup a facility.

I have never been in AL.

According to CA FTB, I owed sales tax to both AL and AZ, for shipping products there. I paid and protested, but no answer was given. I will have to sue the state eventually, when the amount is high enough.

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hate the sales tax thing, I want the price to be the price I have to pay, I don't care who gets the money :)

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I was under the impression that was the idea but noone knew how to interpret it so they just said unless someone tells us to we don't add any taxes

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The reason for withholding (one word, BTW) is to hide the amount of taxes paid. People who get a refund often think the government is paying them! ...rather than having given the government an interest-free loan. No, I

*never* let them keep more than is owed. Too often they (states - the feds can print it) don't pay it back. I owed $9000 on April 15 this year. Now, that is more than I'd like, but... ;-)

It does make a difference, as can be seen here. I'd rather know what the government is stealing from me.

They don't pay it, rather move it along to their customers. In that way, VATs are a good idea. Really, only the eventual consumer pays any taxes under any system. Some hide it better. I don't like politicians hiding anything.

That's a good way to treat any government. See no evil...

...until you're caught, anyway. ;-)

Strange. I can assure you that AL does not collect taxes for CA. My bet is that CA doesn't remit the taxes to AL, either. I'm supposed to pay AL "use" tax on anything I buy from CA, though.

Does the permit save you money, or enforce the collection of tax?

I'm sure over here there's much gets mailed into the country and goes unnoticed, apart from random custom checks. But if there's a strict check on all incoming you can't risk the fines or whatever for not doing the paperwork?

Sad they do that within a country, but there's so many rules we must live by. Hard to change the rules unless you're a biggie, and then it seems to lead to corruption that so many countries suffer.

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There isn't. It's clear from the NY Times article that the New York state revenooers are interpreting Amazon's affiliates (independent companies that use Amazon as a sales agent), some of which, particularly camera companies and such like are in NY state, as an actual Amazon "presence".

They tried to strong-arm Newegg into collecting NY state sales tax, and Newegg complied for a brief time, then reversed the policy.

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So far, Florida calls it an 'impact fee'.

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CA did so 20 years ago. Court ordered refund several years later.

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Well, I guess it needed to be tried 50 times (CA, VT, FL, ...)

Politicians make speeches. Career administrators make rules/policies.

Policy makers should be financially liable, upto their total takes from the people.

That is dangerously close to requiring that they be able to read. (Poll tests were banned.)