OT FAA requires RC pilots to register, or else

Oddly enough I saw a quadcopter in Costco at a low price today and bought it. Not sure where to fly it. Not sure I'll register. Does it cost any more than the $5 fee to pay with a credit card? Sometimes there is a "convenience" fee.

That is called a knee jerk reaction. Just a chance to collect more fines. T hey get the public to support it because "It is such a tragedy". Don't come to the US and get injured, our hospitals kill 300,000 people a year by mis takes. You don't see any legislation dealing with that do you ? I don't and I am quite a bit closer.

This liberal attitude, every time anything bad happens the government has t o step in and prevent it by any means necessary. People's rights be dammned , their safety iss more important.

Stop the planet so I can get the f*ck off.

Now you are snipping the context to make it appear that your point is a valid response to the conversation.

You are avoiding the point being made and responding with strawman arguments, and changed arguments: unimpressive.

To make it crystal clear...

You made your point in response to Formal registration /will/ help alter perception of drones/RC UAV, and start to get people into the appropriate mindset. And that is not only necessary, but it is also a sufficient justification for registration. Note the keywords: *perception*, *start*, *mindset*.

Nothing about manpower, nothing about FAA/congress/laws. They are separate separate issues.

Much as I hate to quote the Daily Wail they have a recent example online:

There have been a few others both with control line planes and RC ones.

I don't think gliders have ever killed anybody but some of the big power models would do you a lot of damage if they lose control.

Things have hotted up here because of people flying large new generation drones over heavily populated areas like football stadiums.

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drones will be as effective as registering CB transceivers. That is it wil l be ignored and involve so many people that there will not be enough jail s to hold the violators. Anything promoted as " start to get people into t he appropriate mindset. " is doomed to fail.

ave the manpower to enforce registration. And is likely to lose any cases because Congress exempted hobby RC planes.

My point is that the registration of owners is most likely to fail. There are better ways to get more people to be responsible than a registration pr ogram. The key words you point out have a very tenuous connection to gettin g people to be responsible.

Dan

Interesting. I think that the lower population density in the states means that there are more places in the states where it is safe to fly RC planes. About 5 or 6 miles from here is white creek state park where the enthusiasts fly RC planes. The size of the park is 3300 acres. Most of the time there is at least 10 acres of park for each person at the park. There are some other places too.

Dan

Registration is imperfect. I'm glad you do have a better way *that succeeds in the short term*.

Please state: 1 what it is, 2 evidence it will be more successful, based on historical examples 3 how you plan to implement it

Part of the problem in the UK was that originally RC models were licensed on the 27MHz band and when US CB kit was illegally sold in the UK it would completely swamp the nominally

Wouldn't be nice if *all* RC/drone owners were that responsible. Youtube demonstrates they aren't.

How do you propose reaching the nirvana where the vast majority of RC/drone owners are that responsible? Pay particular attention to those that bought them on a whim in a toyshop or over the net.

Again, you show your ignorance of what actually happens in the real world. Search youtube for "dynamic soaring glider", and you'll see Bruce T. flew a new Dynamic Soaring world speed record of *505 mph* (810 kph) at the hill in Weldon, CA. He used a Kinetic 130 *sailplane* ballasted to about *26lbs*

I knew 400mph had been achieved; I didn't realise 500mph had been broken.

Clearly those people know what they are doing and appear to be doing it sensibly in that video - but many Dunning-Kruger candidates aren't like that.

The larger fuel powered choppers are dangerous, however. The blade has enough inertia to do considerable damage. My son-in-law had to make an emergency landing with his due to an encroaching drunk. It landed too close to his leg and slashed the hell out of his knee. ER time. He did however get to punch out the drunk first.

That's a valid point.

Since I've never seen a flying RC chopper, they don't naturally impinge on my consciousness. But that doesn't mean I refuse to believe there is a problem, cf some other contributors to this thread :)

Easy. Off the toy of my head, require all RC controled airplanes have a ci rcuit that monitors the received signal and shuts the motor off when the signal is not being received. Could also have a circuit that would shut o ff the motor when a shut off signal is received. This signal would be a u niversal signal that law enforcement official could have. This would allow the gov to power down models over places as stadiums.

Based on historical examples given by you , shutting off the motor would r educe injuries .

I would require any RC controled airplane over one lb in weight sold to hav e the circuit. Owners would not object as much as they would be gaining a feature. And there are a hell of a lot fewer stores to monitor than indiv iduals.

Dan

The quoted text was not written by me.

Dan

Oh, please do just a /little/ fault analysis. Think it through, rather than have a half-baked off-the-cuff "big idea".

Quite frankly, I'm having difficulty distinguishing you from a troll.

I never said or implied that I have a way to make RC/ Drove owners more responsible. What I did say was that having a requirement for owners to register will not work.

Dan

I said it was off the top of my head. But it is way ahead of requiring registration and hoping that makes people more responsible. Are you sure you are not a troll?

Dan

Correct. Clearly my mistake, but I wonder how it happened.

The UK & Dutch solution is interesting. They are training raptors with armoured talons (of the feathered variety) to take them down.