oshpark & gerber

Johann - There are numerous ways an outline can be written, a g36/g37 description which is a polygon defining that space within and a new & improved description described in rs274x.pdf. These have been mentioned for an outline because the "lines" of the perimeter have no width. I'd be wary of trying to find an accepted outline description using lines with a width. What's needed now I think is a complete gerber file that works with Oshpark/4pcb. That would provide a known good starting point for finding the suitable format for an outline description. That would serve as a model in the same way the code you posted for the .xln did. (thanks again for that). If you have such a .zip file and could send it to me attached to an email at snipped-for-privacy@rs-big-print.com, it would be much appreciated.

Hul

Johann Klammer snipped-for-privacy@nospam.a.net> wrote:

Rick - I didn't see how to use the file you've shown below. As you've said it seems more complex than neccessary and Oshpark is probably looking for just one or two specific styles of outline. I tried one of the Gerber files from Microchip's web site and Oshpark said "couldn't find a valid outline". What's needed now is an entire set of Gerber files, ie a Gerber .zip file that Oshpark accepts. With a known good set of files finding the code for the outline should be straight forward. If you know of such a file or anyone else reading this does it can be emailed tod to me at snipped-for-privacy@rs-big-print.com as an attachment.

Hul

Rick C snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

I can't help you further. You ignore my request to post your outline file and you ignore my requests for you to stop top posting.

Yes, /you/ are weary of lines, but I actually know. (the linewidth doesn't matter) atleast that's what jlcpcb and alot of others want

here's a final.GKO from my harddrive (newer eagle puts non plated thru holes in there aswell. gEDA by contrast doesn't. both seems to work if you avoid a restring)

G04 This is an RS-274x file exported by * G04 gerbv version * G04 More information is available about gerbv at * G04

* G04 --End of header info--* %MOIN*% %FSLAX36Y36*% %IPPOS*% G04 --Define apertures--* %ADD10C,0.0000*% %ADD11C,0.0100*% G04 --Start main section--* G54D10* G01X0151000Y0449000D02* G01X0151200Y0454000D01* G01X0151200Y0454000D02* G01X0151800Y0459000D01* G01X0151800Y0459000D02* G01X0152800Y0463900D01* G01X0152800Y0463900D02* G01X0154200Y0468700D01* G01X0154200Y0468700D02* G01X0155900Y0473400D01* G01X0155900Y0473400D02* G01X0158000Y0477900D01* G01X0158000Y0477900D02* G01X0160500Y0482300D01* G01X0160500Y0482300D02* G01X0163300Y0486400D01* G01X0163300Y0486400D02* G01X0166500Y0490300D01* G01X0166500Y0490300D02* G01X0169900Y0494000D01* G01X0169900Y0494000D02* G01X0173600Y0497400D01* G01X0173600Y0497400D02* G01X0177600Y0500400D01* G01X0177600Y0500400D02* G01X0181800Y0503100D01* G01X0181800Y0503100D02* G01X0186200Y0505500D01* G01X0186200Y0505500D02* G01X0190800Y0507600D01* G01X0190800Y0507600D02* G01X0195500Y0509200D01* G01X0195500Y0509200D02* G01X0200300Y0510500D01* G01X0200300Y0510500D02* 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... Way too big.

Here is mine. Just draw a rectangle.

%MOIN*% %FSLAX25Y25*% %LNOUTLINE*% %ADD63C,0.0150*% G54D63* X127200Y275000D02* Y45000D01* X521000D01* Y275000D01* X127200D01* M02*

Rick - I didn't see your request to post the (last) gerber file with the outline. I'll do that today. As for the top posting, keep in mind that some people use news readers that make top posting preferable. Tin for one & several others that are probably more popular.

Hul

Rick C snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks Ed. That looks like an outline description. I'll see what happens. One question: what are the dimensions of the board.

Hul

Ed Lee snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

100mmx100mm (3.937"x3.937") with text outside the board area, which is lower left (127200, 45000) to upper right (521000, 275000). We put descriptive text on the layout outside the board area to double check on communication.

Rick - the code last used for an outline is below. That is the total of the .gko file. Oshpark read it and said "gpsallp.gko is an invalid outline". The indication being that they read a .gko with the intent to find the outline. Ed Lee posted what looks like a more modern format and that'll be the next try.

Hul

ps. I tried Ed's code for the outl> > > Rick - I didn't see how to use the file you've shown below. As

Thanks Ed. I took your code, altered it to fit and it worked first try. Oshpark found some errors in drill sizes & locations but that looks like a scale error. Should be fixable. Thanks again for the outline code.

Hul

Ed Lee snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, that's eagle putting little circles in there approximated by line segments.

roughly 10x10 cm

It's not meant to be used as-is coz of the circles. you should draw your own.

Your saying the line width is ignored for an outline has been seen a couple of other places. I'm slowly beleving...

Hul

Johann Klammer snipped-for-privacy@nospam.a.net> wrote: