Old noise generator

Nov 26, 2009 30 Replies

Newer ones can be fed a reference spectrum, remember it, and divide a later spectrum by that. So if your signal (or noise) source isn't flat, it can correct for that. Sweep the generator without the filter, then with the filter, and divide (or subtract the logs.) We do this at work with our Aeroflex.

This wouldn't work well with noise, I'm thinking. It would be fine for a comb. A little division by zero never killed anybody.

Well, get a spectrum analyzer with a tracking generator! Or buy a cheap VCO and triangle sweep it with a function generator.

It will be hard to generate a GHz-wide noise source that has any usable power density in a 50 mHz slice. If there's a microwatt in every 50 mHz, you'll need a 20 kilowatt noise generator.

Yes. Onsemi mostly, some Arizona Microtech and Micrel.

Analog Devices makes some comparators that have 40 ps edges. They should generate combs well into the GHz range.

I once managed a survey of twisted-pairs in the NY subway system. I designed a comb generator, 1 KHz to 200 KHz I recall, and had one guy connect it to one end of a pair at one station, and another photograph a spectrum analyzer screen at the other. That saved a lot of time.

Geez, I've done a lot of weird stuff.

John

I'm afraid not. The string "leftist weenies" keeps popping up repeatedly.

Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ Don\'t anthropomorphize computers. They hate that.

If it's mHz, shouldn't it be more like 20GW?

An EMP bomb should do. ;-)

Tim

1e9 * 1e-6 / 0.05 = 20e3

John

Ditto "straw man" and "peer-reviewed." It's pseudo-random, ie noise generated by pseudo-intellectuals.

John

I didn't know you were a string.

Hey Phil, how do leds compare as noise sources ?

Best Regards: Baron.

I think I have a newer solid state unit. Glad. Mine has selectable BW.

greg

Ok, I'll try and collect some. It will not be in the next days though.

Joop

Just remembered this, data I took some time back:

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Zener_Noise.pdf

John

Thanks for the pdf from the data book John, I think I saw similar type stuff. I also put a cap across the zener and at low currents saw that the pulse width seemed to depend on the capacitor value....(more C =3D longer pulses) almost like the zener was a solid state 'spark gap' that discharged all the charge that was availible. I want to look into this again, But my boss put the kibash on these experiments and I'll have to look into it 'after hours' or at home.

George H.

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