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The problem with edlin (and ed(1)) is they are line-oriented; OK in a bind (e.g., boot to single user and vi(1) isn't mounted) but too tedious to use as a daily driver.

In much the same way vi(1) is a necessary evil.

hasn't nano become the default for sane people?

Yes that's my Linux editor of choice when setting up a system.

Burn the witch!

Nobody’s sane about their editor

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

You can't count on it being present on every system. And, as you will inevitably need to edit *some* configuration file, you don't want to rely on ed(1) unless there are no alternatives.

I have been using 'joe' as editor since the early Linux releases. Never a problem. I use it typing this too. My NewsFleX Usenet newsreader allows you to select an external editor.

All programming done with 'joe' as editor. Picture stuff with ImageMagic and xv and a Canon camera or my Xiaomi smartphone HD camera.

Original MSPAINT.EXE identifies your x/y pixel mouse location. Hence pixel scaling/measurement possibilities. You have to know how to add, subtract, multiply and divide to use it.

You can always convert the bmp original to some other format, but using the original for revision saves time and avoids discoloration and 'smokey' edges of a more advanced consumer image technology.

Jaggies are part of the art. Smaller text fonts show the infamous computer x/y matrix style of yore - still seen in digital displays and sci-fi art. As long as it's legible it's doing the job.

It has the usual cutting and pasting for repetitive detail - often-used details can be 'stored' on other bitmap images, to be retrieved by a magical copying and pasting method.

Ain't compeeyoodahs grand.

RL

Vi is not necessary. (S.

In message <114t03m$30dq$ snipped-for-privacy@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>, Edward Rawde snipped-for-privacy@invalid.invalid writes

Mine works on 64bit W11 . The command there is edit not edlin, which is the stone-age version .Edlin works on my 32bit W10 , which I use for legacy software .

Not that I'd use either. However I've grown to dislike the current version of Notepad as it seems to leave millions of tabs open when I go back to it.

Brian

I wrote a lot of subtitle software to add differerent language text and other stuff to movies. All in linux of course

As to pdf, linux has so much, I sometines use xpdf amd Chromium browser displays it OK and zoom in - and zoom out is nice in Chromium. There is so much more in Linux: raspberrypi: ~ # apropos pdf dvipdf (1) - Convert TeX DVI file to PDF using ghostscript and dvips ghostscript (1) - Ghostscript (PostScript and PDF language interpreter and previewer) gs (1) - Ghostscript (PostScript and PDF language interpreter and previewer) gsnd (1) - Run ghostscript (PostScript and PDF engine) without display pdf2dsc (1) - generate a PostScript page list of a PDF document pdf2ps (1) - Ghostscript PDF to PostScript translator pdfattach (1) - Portable Document Format (PDF) document embedded file creator (version 3.03) pdfdetach (1) - Portable Document Format (PDF) document embedded file extractor (version 3.03) pdffonts (1) - Portable Document Format (PDF) font analyzer (version 3.03) pdfimages (1) - Portable Document Format (PDF) image extractor (version 3.03) pdfinfo (1) - Portable Document Format (PDF) document information extractor (version 3.03) pdfseparate (1) - Portable Document Format (PDF) page extractor pdfsig (1) - Portable Document Format (PDF) digital signatures tool pdftocairo (1) - Portable Document Format (PDF) to PNG/JPEG/TIFF/PDF/PS/EPS/SVG using cairo pdftohtml (1) - program to convert PDF files into HTML, XML and PNG images pdftoppm (1) - Portable Document Format (PDF) to Portable Pixmap (PPM) converter (version 3.03) pdftops (1) - Portable Document Format (PDF) to PostScript converter (version 3.03) pdftotext (1) - Portable Document Format (PDF) to text converter (version 3.03) pdfunite (1) - Portable Document Format (PDF) page merger ps2ascii (1) - Ghostscript translator from PostScript or PDF to ASCII ps2pdf (1) - Convert PostScript to PDF using ghostscript ps2pdf12 (1) - Convert PostScript to PDF 1.2 (Acrobat 3-and-later compatible) using ghostscript ps2pdf13 (1) - Convert PostScript to PDF 1.3 (Acrobat 4-and-later compatible) using ghostscript ps2pdf14 (1) - Convert PostScript to PDF 1.4 (Acrobat 5-and-later compatible) using ghostscript ps2pdfwr (1) - Convert PostScript to PDF without specifying CompatibilityLevel, using ghostscript qpdfview (1) - tabbed document viewer xpdf (1) - Portable Document Format (PDF) file viewer for X (xpopple) xpdf.real (1) - Portable Document Format (PDF) file viewer for X (xpopple) xpdfrc (5) - configuration file for xpdf (xpopple)

edlin seems to be present on XP which I have in a VM. edit reminds me of QBASIC which I wouldn't touch now that python is what it is.

QBasic was intended to provide some basic notion of programmability. Recall, early Windows versions didn't lend themselves to any realistic sort of scripting.

The suite of "basic tools" in an OS is something that one can (presumably) count on to be present AND reasonably operational, without relying on other aspects of the OS to be present.

Much like one can create a HEREIS document in the absent of a real editor. Appending successive lines to a file with ">>" gets tiring pretty quickly. And, trying to correct a mistake in said document with sed(1), equally so.

Instead, you put up with things like ed(1) which is a trivial enough piece of code that a static binary can be present on the smallest of filesystems.

Power Basic Console Compiler is fabulous. And crazy fast.