I need it to be really linear, and act as a variable resistor based on gate to source voltage. I need it to compress audio.
What would be the best device ? I need an Rds that goes down to maybe 2 ohms, but the main thing is that the Rds stays constant with varying Vds at any given Vgs.
Any recommendations ?
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Phil Hobbs
In the low ohms range,
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Phil Hobbs
In the low-ohms range, a 2N7002 with 100% to 200% AC gate feedback works pretty well. The linear range is limited to about 2 to 10 ohms, so you'd need several stages to get a wide range.
The usual choice is a JFET with 50% AC gate feedback, but you'd need to parallel a bunch of them to get to 2 ohms.
Why is the impedance level so low?
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John Larkin
What sort of Vds range do you have in mind? Fets can be pretty linear to +- a tenth of a volt or so, but not volts.
A linear multiplier IC might be better.
A pair of fets used antiphase might be interesting.
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Ancel UnfetteredOne
Well, something out of the box like a piece of thin nichrome with a DC current to heat it while picking off your AC signal with a cap might be interesting. Variation of the low distortion filament oscillator.
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piglet
Interesting suggestion! A small incandescent filament lamp would have a cold/hot resistance ratio of about ten times. So might need to cascade several stages and attack time might not be the fastest but distortion would be really low.
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whit3rd
Unless you have a small DC range in mind, (or a very small AC range), a JFET in voltage-controlled-resistance is going to be disappointing.
Try an OTA solution instead, that's what they really do well. Figure 26 here may be useful:
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Jasen Betts
nichrome has a low thermal coefficient, but stainless, or tungsten, etc would work,
a 5W 12V lamp has a cold resistance of about 2.4 ohms (measured) which rasies to about 29 ohms (computed) at full power
presumably a 200mW 2.4V lamp would follow the same trajectory.
'Wein bridge oscillator'?
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makolber
No, if you use the FET as the shunt element and keep the p_p audio small across the FET And use the 50% feedback trick mentioned by another poster, You can get very good results. Distortion well under 1%. The worst case distortion occurs at about 6 dB attenuation.
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tabbypurr
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gate to source voltage. I need it to compress audio.
2 ohms, but the main thing is that the Rds stays constant with varying Vds at any given Vgs.
current to heat it while picking off your AC signal with a cap might be int eresting.
Low current filament gives the fastest attack. Driving it symmetrically eli minates ac components of the control voltage appearing on the audio line, w hile not needing to slow down control to minimise this. Filaments can handl e sizable pulses if you need attack to be faster. But limit those pulses, y ou don't want to get filament spots too hot. Using the whole 10x R range me ans running them white hot, which would give short life.
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Phil Hobbs
The OP wanted 2 ohms for some reason, which would take a lot of (matched) J FETs, and the 50% feedback trick doesn't work with MOSFETs. MOSFETs in rhe low ohms region actually want 100% to 200%.
I did some measurements of this a few years back with NXP 2N7002s and found that 150% worked well. That is, I put the two FETs in series, drove their gates in parallel through a resistor, and put a big cap from the gates to t he drain of the top device. That's ~200% FB for the bottom one and ~100% fo r the top one. In the low ohms region THD was around -60dB.
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Tauno Voipio
How about a platinum RTD, e.g. Pt-100?
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Phil Hobbs
The resistance range is disappointingly small. Of course if you use two of them in a bridge, you don't need much of a range--the audio will cancel out when delta-T is zero.
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