Microphonic film capacitor

May 28, 2009 32 Replies

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The reason for microphonic sensitivity could be either a piezoelectric effect, or (maybe) piezoresistance. Piezoresistance (actually leakage in the insulator) would have response at twice the injected frequency.

Small-size ceramic capacitors use piezoelectric materials (rutile and titanates), but a wide range of ceramic materials is available, you'll have to buy and try. NPO should be fine, but C values are small.

Polymers aren't intrinsically piezoelectric; plastic film becomes polarizable because of internal strains, so look for mechanically weak dielectrics. I'd expect polystyrene capacitors (like Mallory SX series) to be nonmicrophonic just because styrene is a weak plastic.

Aluminum electrolytic should be fine for your low-pass application. That dielectric, Al2O3, is definitely NOT piezoelectric.

The most microphonic caps I've ever met were poorly manufactured electrolytics. The 'capacitor pill' wasn't securely located in the can. The re-work that involved ! Thanks purchasing.

Then there was the batch of TL072s the MD insisted on buying cheap ( they'd been soaked in a leaky container during shipping ). LMAO. What the guys behind desks do is something else.

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Funny thing though is surface mount resistors measure as about the most ideal resistor you could imagine. The ESL is just the electrical length.

I can see through-hole parts have less microphonics since the lead itself relieves stress on the part.

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Generally the guys behind the desk sink the company, but make sure they have a golden parachute.

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Sadly the surface mount resistive film has more excess noise than metal film leaded. You can HEAR the difference. The material used is grossly inferior. It's even on the data sheets where the manufacturer dains to publish the numbers.

Plus, the dielectric films used in SMT caps and the construction don't match what we audio pros are used to.

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Time for change. Politics and dumb politicians are no different. I LOATHE most of them. There a FEW good 'uns though, bless them.

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You need to learn about PVF2. Hellishly piezoelectric.

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I don't doubt the differences. My point is strictly on parasitics. The chip resistors measure well.

Thanks; i can dig that out if i need it. Always thught glass caps were cool...

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Depends on the brand and type..witness those old Sprague caps!

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...so, rats that sink ships do not use lifeboats - they use golden parachutes. Someone needs to learn how to cut certain strings....

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When they write the book on this decade, "too big to fail" will be in the lexicon.

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Well my reading on that is that it would damage the interests of the real big money types. I have a better idea, get rid of the tortured tax laws that help create megacorporations that cannot be brought to account for their deeds.

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