Lowering LDL

Sounds good, but the bottom line is does it improve health? It would take a long term study to measure mortality and morbidity to determine if it really helps.

I was very surprised to read the study where they determined no worse outcomes for patients of doctors on long shifts without sleep. I guess we can let those truckers and airline pilots go without sleep too.

Well, it seems there is some evidence that reduced cholesterol reduces heart disease, but the results are skewed by an over all better diet and improved healthcare.

There are of course, many articles that suggest statins don't help prevent heart disease, but they are usually someone making statements, and then having a natural supplement that will help you.

My dad had a heart attack at 43yrs old and a couple more after that. He ended up with a quadruple bypass and a zipper up both legs from ankle to to mid thigh where the docs searched for clean veins for the bypasses. At another time, they wondered how his brain worked with the blockage in his carotid arteries. So, I'm 60 and getting serious about my health. I'm miles ahead of where my dad was. I started swimming last April, I swam 2 miles in 1-1/2 hrs Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, and over a mile Thursday and Saturday. Also walk at least 2 miles a day. My dad had a hard time walking 100 yards. He also smoked up until has quad bypass.

I'm feeling very good, even my back is feeling better.

I thought I'd lose weight with all the swimming and walking but I didn't, so, 2-1/2 weeks ago, I cut back on my food intake, and have lost

Mikek

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

It's all in that fundamental exercise... the push-away (from the dinner table that is :-)

In a little over a year I've dropped from 210 to 170, just 6 pounds over my high school weight ;-)

My total cholesterol is ~200 but my HDL/LDL ratio is so good the doc says I'm in great shape.

I took statins for awhile in the late '90's, got the muscle weakness bit, told the doc, no thanks... no statins since. ...Jim Thompson

The issue at hand is not a connection between LDL levels and health, it is between eating barley or any other method of lowering LDL levels and health. Making a connection to any intermediate does not assure the end result which is better health.

It's not about the weight exactly. You can exercise and loose fat while gaining muscle and end up a bit heavier. Not bad in any sense.

Yes, and I feel better eating less at each meal.

I'll respond like Joe, "That's a big F'ing deal" Congratulations, it's not easy or America wouldn't be fat.

My HDL has always ran low usually around 34, but in June it was down to 25. This month it came up to 33 and my ratio was 4.3. Cholesterol was

Once your stomach shrinks, you don't have to consciously "push-away"... you feel full.

I've had to tell my wife to cut back on the ingredients when she's prepping a meal... we perpetually have left-overs.

...Jim Thompson

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That's why medicine now tends to pay more attention to the circumference of your waist.

It's the fat deposits around the heart, kidneys, liver and pancreas which r eflect the real problem. For some reason fat on hips and thighs doesn't cor relate with poor health.

The fact that waist circumference can be measured directly does help too.

You forgot that you MUST DRINK the barley...in the beer!

Don't believe it. My doc thought the exact same thing, until I was on the slab for a triple bypass. My HDL is high and triglycerides really low but I still got the zipper.

I've been on statins for about a year, now. I thought my joint pain was being caused by them but apparently I'm just walking too much.

Yet another BS site with cover-up crap that is fixed and in the way of the document. Am talking about the TWO crap covers relating to "headlines".

NoScript is becoming more and more useless.

Really? You needed to click a link to read up on the death rate being

If you continue to eat less at each meal maybe you will work your way down to eating nothing at all! Think how good you'll feel then!!!

So, if I understand it correctly they reduced the amount of wheat flour and the LDL reduced? I'm not surprised.

joe

Quit all meat and carbohydrates, in other words: vegan, but try as much as possible uncooked vegetables, and your arteries will clean up themselves. Documented in various places. And add lots of vitamin C to your diet (as in > 10 g/day), best as sodium ascorbate.

Good luck with your health,

joe

Very good, congratulations.

joe

You mean me? I think I just responded quite differently.

More like that indeed.

joe

Do you mean April 2015? That is not called "last April." Walking as an exer cise is worthless unless you're a cripple. Also, the long drawn out stuff l ike 2 mile swims are only slightly better than worthless. Those "workouts" are not only ineffective physically but take a psychological toll due to th e boredom factor.

Dunno what kind of clueless imbecile mentions a bodyweight and omits the h eight. Your 160 is less than impressive if you stand 5' 2".

Earlier this year I went on a walking jag, doing 35 to 40 miles a week. I developed a knee problem, It was OK walking, but if I went up or down a step it was painful. I backed off to a couple miles a day and the pain went away. I'm lucky, while I'm working I have a 1/2 mile lap around the marina that allows me to keep an eye out for customers while I walk. I can get my exercise while I work. Mikek