Looking for a name of a clamp or latch

I can visualize this, but have no clue what one may call it, so I can't do web searches.

So please bear with the long explanation, and then make suggestions. Better yet, suggestions with part numbers!

This is going into a product with small production runs but (hopefully) a long production life. Hence, I'm primarily interested in things that I can buy off the shelf, from known, established manufacturers (i.e., no "Honest Chen's eBay Special", nor even stuff from McMaster-Carr). If I absolutely must I can have stuff made to print, but I have to believe that there's something suitable out there.

Imagine a plastic board, 1" by 10" by big. It has a 1/4" deep pocket milled into the top (the 10" by big part) of it.

Now imagine a box, 6" x 3" x 3" on a 1/4" thick plastic plate. The plate overhangs the box, and just fits into the pocket in the board. Put the box into the board, and notice how well it's located from side to side, and fore and aft, thanks to the fit between the plate and pocket.

Now turn the board over -- damn, the box fell off. This just won't do.

I'm looking for some suitable gizmo to clamp the plate onto the board, either with 1/4-turn clamps (the sort that have a tongue that sticks out to engage the plate), or some sort of overcenter latch.

The box will weigh in at less than two pounds, probably less than one. So the worst loading that the latches will see is accidental. If someone doesn't quite disengage them before pulling on the box, for instance, or if someone drops the assembly on the floor (from waist height).

It has to look good, be made of materials that can stand salt spray, and be fairly easy to use by the mechanically inept -- if the user can open a door, they should be able to work the latches.

Some users will need to unclip the box from the board once every few years. Other users will need to do so on a daily basis. So the clamp/ latches need to be able to withstand both hard use and neglect, and still work in the end.

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Tim Wescott
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If you don't need impact-proof retention, a few spring loaded detent plungers might do. That is, if you have a way of getting them screwed in from the side of the box base plate...

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Bill Martin

Look for Deutz or 1/4 turn fasteners. You should be able to get them in stainless steel.

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Joe Chisolm

Picture frame fasteners or fasteners that hold glass in kitchen cabinet doors? They're avail in plastic and you can use brass screws with them. Art

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Artemus

Window latches? You know, the old vertical sliding window style, 1/4 to

1/2 turn thing, where a tongue fits into a separate receptacle thingy?

Overcenter latch indeed comes to mind. Very common for mechanical jigs and the like. Maybe not as drop-insensitive or visually appealing. Usually big enough that they're hard to miss visually and tactile...ly. Just whack your hand across them and they're set (or not).

The former might be available in stainless or plated brass for marine applications; the latter might be available in stainless or chrome for industrial applications.

There are plastic and metal clamps, pulls and latches in all sorts of styles. Example: spring loaded wedge shaped latches, so you can press the box-plate into the pocket-plate and it snaps in.

I should think there would also be more compact or 'stylish' sorts of clamps

Worth noting, assuming you don't need the flange-ness provided by the box-plate, you might have better results with tapered alignment pins: no need to mill an entire pocket (or have it fabbed), can be very tight (a few thou of slop can still be assembled quickly without careful alignment from the user, and without chafing as it slides in -- though it will take a little more care in machining the pin and hole positions, and requires ground steel pins and receptacles), and can still be retained with two latches or so, which might mate with hardware bolted onto the box, pockets milled/fabbed into the box sides, or a small flange (without needing the entire plate).

If you have the benefit of a very deep pocket (say, as deep as the box is tall), or some length of rails, or anything like that to maintain sliding alignment, you can get away with just one latch.

Why the aversion to McMaster? I understand they're basically mechanical Digikey: big inventory, quick search catalog, high prices. I've seen them called out for small production before, but -- as I am not an ME, I don't have the extended experience there.

Funny, I only now thought to crosspost to RCM, but I see you anticipated that idea. :-)

Tim

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Tim Williams

A rubber truck hood latch?

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Jim Wilkins

Expoy screw inserts into the big plate, use to screw down two plastic rectangular strips on parallel and opposite edges to clamp down the smaller plate in the pocket.

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bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

I don't have an aversion to McMaster per se. What I have an aversion to is buying "no name" parts from a place that does not have a long-term commitment to supplying the same thing each and every time.

It comes from the anticipated lifetime of the product, and the fact that once we design a latch in, any changes to the latch will create both a running change in the product, and a stocking issue for spare parts.

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Tim Wescott 
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Tim Wescott

Maybe something like this:

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Avail online (Home Depot).

My first thought based on your description was those little closure clasps that are used on aircraft compartments and beverage carts to keep the drawers from sliding out. I don't know if those have a special name.

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mpm

Carr Lane or Cleco Clamps?

Steve

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sroberts6328

Always did find it odd that they don't provide MFG/MFGPN on their stuff. It's effectively all store rebranded.

Manufacturers must have different supplier contracts and stuff. Not that you need to know nearly as much to make a washer as a transistor, but it still seems odd in comparison. Like RadioShack (when they sold a lot of components..).

Tim

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Tim Williams

Take a look at the Southco catalog; they have many things in this direction and have been around for a while. Top level at

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. Some things that seem like what you want include...

Cam latches (quarter turn)

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Draw latches

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A "rotary draw latch" is the thing that goes on big transit cases for musical equipment, stage productions, etc - kind of like a sliding window latch but the handle folds flat when you're not using it.

Their over-center latches are also on the "draw latch" page.

Captive screws

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The problem with these is that somebody either buggers up the male thread or tears the female thread out of where it's mounted. If they tear up the male thread on the fancy captive screw, a regular screw inevitably gets substituted. If the female thread tears out, it gets drilled through, and a longer screw and regular nut are used (assuming you can stand the screw sticking out on the back side).

Dzus fasteners

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These are the canonical quarter-turn fasteners... airplanes use them a lot. The action is similar to how a BNC connector works. Most often you see them with a screwdriver slot, but you can get them with a wingnut-like handle. Sometimes you can get a screwdriver slot wide enough to use a coin with. These die when somebody bends the latch wire beyond recognition, or possibly when the wire slots in the "screw" part get buggered up. Also, nobody knows how to spell Dzus, so you have to train your repair parts people ahead of time. :)

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Matt Roberds

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mroberds

Apparently my babbling is too disjointed. My ideal latch would look like these, only prettier and not quite so drunken-hobbyist-with-a-CAD-program:

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Tim Wescott

I would make corner 'grabs' out of the advanced polymers we are seeing these days. I mean Bayer aspirin can put it on their aspirin bottle lids, it should be easy. You could probably even get some carbon filled to be an ESD dissapator. They would be a triablge with a depression in them where the PCB rests.

But you could use those pre-tweaked PEM nut that grab the screw by being out of round, and nail it down against the corner pads with that.

You get some additional vib withstand on rubbery mounts as well.

I have drive enclosures where the drive sits on top of a silicon gasket type 3mm square surround, making it a spongy mount, but firm.

The material they use for the drive mount screw surrounds is the polymer I am talking about. There are a few, actually.

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

Southco has a much better alternative to Dzus, solid screw part, spring steel plate it goes in. I got real tired of Dzus fasteners while working on Dad's cropdusters. But neither would be worth much after 2 yrs of salt spray. A simple 316L stainless washer cut off on one side with an angle handle on the other could work if the tension was right (fairly stiff). Southco probably has something like that.

I used to use a lot of Southco stuff, liked it.

Pete Keillor

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Pete Keillor

Magnets.

Ideally embedded in the plastic, so they don't get wet.

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Robert Roland

I should have checked that link first. Did not realize it would take you to their home page instead of the product page.

Return to:

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and enter "L5760" in the search bar.

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mpm

Wing latch, or windshield latch on this site:

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Maynard A. Philbrook Jr.

make it generic and another part of similar function can be substituted. since it's marine "hatch dogs"

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Jasen Betts

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