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Octopart found them for $1.42 right off the bat...

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AD8036 found at around $5 so that means somewhat cheaper than that for a manufacturer.

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A little difficult. I'm in Christchurch, New Zealand, at the moment, and my electronic gear - such as it is - is out of reach.

You were interested eniugh to measure the temperature stability of the circuits you'd put together. Why weren't you interested enough to work out where the temperature variation was coming from?

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Bill Sloman, Sydney (but in Christchurch, New Zealand at the moment)
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(PDT),BillSloman

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Because I was designing a real product, a fast laser driver, and the LED current source was plenty good enough. 100 PPM/K is down where the power supply, the resistors, the capacitors, and beta variations all matter. If I wanted a more precise current source, which I often do, it would be closed-loop. I didn't have need or room for that on this little board, and the LED thing was fun. But not fun enough to spend a full day on it.

Here's the board:

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(PDT),BillSloman

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precisely,

comparator in

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Larkin can't handle the math >:-} ...Jim Thompson

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(PDT),BillSloman

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It's plain that this circuit will never be a really good current source, for several reasons, so why bother doing a lot of math? Some of us don't need to do pages of algebra or a Spice sim to see the obvious.

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Power supply rejection can be greatly improved, and I bet you can't tell us how, without looking up my old posts.

Design some *real* electronics, you obsolete old geezer:

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John Larkin                  Highland Technology Inc 
www.highlandtechnology.com   jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com    

Precision electronic instrumentation 
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators 
Custom timing and laser controllers 
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links 
VME  analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer 
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators
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It can't be perfect, but it could have been better than you achieved with fairly minor modifications, none of which demand pages of algebra or a Spice sim - though it's often quicker (if less reliable) to run a Spice sim than it is to solder in the extra/differemt components.

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The obvious technique is to make it a "ring of two" circuit, and use the LED voltage to set up a current source to bias the LED at a more nearly constant current. The traditional way would add three more transistors - two of them in a current mirror.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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But ground loops put noise on the power supply rails.

You called it oscillation, rather than electromagnetic interference, so the implication is that the extra feedback paths through the supply rails (including the ground connection) were creating the instability.

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