LED as solar cell , high voltage low current converter

Mar 28, 2016 12 Replies

HI.



I try to make simple test with LED diodes and how they react when they are exposed to sunlight. Depending on LED type you can get some reasonable voltage but the current is in microAmps range. If we use magnifier then i can the current is boosted in mili amp range ( around 2 - 5 mA ). All together useless if you dont use any additional elements.



Now. there is a guy on YT that made the same test but with UV led and thyristor. My question would be:


-is it possible to run something stronger ( lets say 3W ) LED diode instead buzzer.


- 1000 LED's would produce around 1100V and maximum of 1mA. Would it make sense to get some high voltage converter to get some usable setup ( let's say 12V setup ) ?



Anyhow, quite interesting but unfortunately current are , in my opinion, too small to make any use of this.



GM


There are some nice photovoltaic optocouplers that make around 10V at

10s of uA, and a dual that makes roughly 20 volts. A bunch of those in series makes a lot of volts. Efficiency is crazy, a couple tenths of a per cent.

But SIP dc/dc converters can be series'd too. To make kilovolts, a Cockroft-Walton multiplier is hard to beat.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

If an LED put out say 1v 100uA that's 0.1mW. To get 3W you'd thus need 3/0.

1/1000 = 30,000 LEDs. With magnifying lenses and 2.5mA each you'd need 40 0 LEDs - and 400 lenses! Plastic fresnel lenses are cheaper, and water in p olythene lenses cheapest.

Just connect them so you get 12v rather than 1000! No convertor needed.

You could run stuff like an LCD calculator. Or CMOS with equally little loa d. Or store it up for many seconds then do more for 0.01 seconds etc.

s too but there are cheap ways to tackle that.

NT

LED or solar cell (SC)/ photodiode (PD) you are stuck with the band gap of the semiconductor. LED's give a bit higher voltage, but you might as well string a bunch of SC/PD together and get the current (larger area)

As JL says there are these various isolater, gate driver things that can give you 10's of volts.... I strung a bunch together once and got ~100V at "not enough" current.

George H.

I made this a long time ago:

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Finding an LED that's a good solar cell and finding a 500µF cap that doesn't leak current like crazy isn't easy. It's luck if you can get that circuit working.

Blue, green, and violet LEDs might not work as well as you hope. They produce the highest voltage but they also have a protection MOV. Over time the MOV will leak just enough current that you won't get power from ambient light. They work great when driven by a laser, though.

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Thank you guys for your reply.

I was thinking on using converter just because of design simplicity. It's easier to connect 1000 led in series :-). Or maybe buing just few

100W LED's :-)

Laser and LED

- quite interesting idea! Did you try this on some practical sample ? Do you have some test results ?

GM

it isn't

what possible use is a less than 1% efficient convertor of electricity?

NT

** Yea, i agree with you. It wouldn't make much sense to use such approach. Btw. What kind of material in LED is triggering this photo voltaic reaction ?

the semiconductor with its junctions.

NT

The old 1N914 glass body is light sensitive. Any silicon junction is.

That was pretty much Solyndra. Their less expensive and less efficient solar cells never found a market. I guess nobody looks at solar farm plans and wishes it was bigger and more difficult to install.

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