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when he lied to the country about Saddam Hussein.

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If you aren't aware of any lie, you then you are exhibiting a degree of pro

-Republican fanaticism tantamount to a complete loss of critical faculties.

You should be aware that other people aren't as comfortable as you are abou t taking Republican Party propaganda at face value.

You've complained about an astonishing variety of subjects here. Your not c omplaining about the Republican mis-information campaign that preceded the invasion of Irak is consequently significant.

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olvement in Iraq. An investigation by C.J. Chivers, published in The Times on Wednesday, found that American and American-trained Iraqi troops discove red thousands of abandoned and highly dangerous chemical weapons left over from the rule of Saddam Hussein. These weapons, found from 2004 to 2011, wo unded troops from both armies. There are now fears that some could fall int o the hands of fighters for the Islamic State[...]"

ruction that the George W. Bush administration claimed as the excuse for em barking on the Iraq war and that, it turned out, did not exist. Instead, th ey are aged remnants left over from an earlier chemical weapons program in the late-1970s and 1980s that was shut down in 1991. Mr. Hussein used the w eapons against Iran in a war from 1980-88."

icle to the end? Or were you hoping that nobody else would?

He might have had them, but it doesn't sound as if he knew where they were. He'd gotten rid of everything that he knew about to get the UN inspectors off his neck, but he wasn't a famously good administrator.

The people who got injured by them ran into them by accident. They weren't

- as far as I know - ever actually used as weapons, because nobody knew whe re they were. Don't attribute to malice anything that is more easily explic able by stupidity, and the NYT is not going to get excited about administra tive oversights, any more than I am.

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Of course it didn't need to be started. Saddam was mad, bad and evil, but w hat we've got now may not be evil, but it's quite as mad, and quite a bit w orse.

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Where Dubbya really screwed up was in underestimating the size of the army of occupation that would have been needed to effectively control Irak. The Pentagon famously told him that it would take several hundred thousand troo ps, and my guess is that they would have had to stay there for a generation until you'd had a chance to brainwash the rising generation in a properly organised school system.

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Dubbya couldn't afford that, and neither could Obama. Obama at least had th e sense to stop wasting money on an expensive but inadequate occupying army .

What was left in Irak was easy pickings for ISIS, but that wasn't something that Obama was in a position to do anything about.

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in the US system - it does cost half as much again per head as the most gen erous of it's international rivals - and Obama might have been hoping to sq ueeze in some cost saving reforms at the same time as extending the system.

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That's convincing. It's not going to change my attitude to Obama - I know h e's a politician, and prone to say things that spin well, but don't turn ou t to be precisely accurate, which is a failing of the breed, all the way ba ck to the founding tax evaders and before.

, in the same way that you only read half your New York Times "evidence" th at Dubbya wasn't lying.

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A fanciful claim, not based on any evidence beyond the fact that I'm not co nvinced by stuff that you take as gospel. Since your opinions of anthropoge nic global warming sound exactly like that to me, I'm not surprised that yo u attribute to me what seems to be a constant element in your behaviour.

There's a whole lot of evidence. Remember Nigerian yellow-cake?

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Australia's then prime minister - John Howard - went along with Dubbya, and was presumably compensated for his help. Tony Blair in the UK was similarl y helpful, but made the mistake of quoting from a particularly low-level as sessment of Saddam which seriously upset the intelligence establishment, al l of whom thought that Dubbya was lying. France and Germany were extremely sceptical. The Dutch eventually offered political - but no military - suppo rt, and a 2010 enquiry was critical of even that.

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You do go in for hysterical rubbish. But - if you were right - you'd be the first into the cattle truck to be sent off to a re-education camp, and sin ce you are in severe need of re-education/de-programming this might not be such a bad thing, even if it were a total denial of all your human rights t o be a brain-washed fanatic.

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If you base your choices on 'emotional energy,' you're going to get scalped buying everything, aren't you? Including new tires.

You're making up obstacles. If you're paying cash, there's no reason for a doctor taking new patients to refuse you.

My mom treated cancer patients over forty years. They can and do factor cost into their treatment decisions, and the ones who do benefit enormously. Not just financially, involved patients have better outcomes too.

That's making more excuses. If your health isn't important to you, don't complain about the many costs.

The point is to pay cash. You seem stuck in the obstacles created by this bureaucratic apparatus, and are accepting *their* limitations.

Just find a doctor you like, and pay him. You don't need permission.

You're illustrating the point: American medical care is over-priced, in great part, because other people are also calculating based on their out-of-pocket is, and not actual cost.

A side note: you've illustrated people *are* cost-shopping rather aggressively, but based on what things will cost *them.*

You're making lots of assumptions about other people's thinking.

Rather than do that, I prefer permitting a competitive environment, then letting hospitals figure out how to do things better, faster, and cheaper.

Should Obama take over the cell phone industry and tell them how to do things better? Really?

You might argue that most people need cell phones in a hurry, or that they lack the technical knowledge to choose their own, yet they do shop and do pretty well, without even knowing what a 'CPU' is.

It's not true that most care is emergency or urgent.

Which happens every day and accounts for most of U.S. health spending? Not.

If you already have a doctor who's thrifty and good, then you already know where to go when you have a need. My dad was such a doctor.

If you want to be a victim, sure, throw your hands up and be a victim.

Car-shopping is similar--people are fooled by third-party payers (loans), and payment terms, into paying much more overall.

It's a lot easier to let people shop, and use the money they would've wasted on Obamacare overhead to purchase actual care, at 30-40% lower cost.

Then buy bare-bones insurance for the big stuff. Stripped of Obamacare's coverage mandates and massive personnel overhead to cover Obamacare's greatly increased claims traffic, it'll be cheap.

That's more responsive to the patient too. As a bonus you don't need any mandates, IRS enforcement, etc.

Cheers, James Arthur

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Yes, that's true about Obamacare. I was speaking about the picture in general from before Obamacare, when America was still a free country.

You're right that Obamacare's tapping you to pay for others' new privileges.

California Insurance Commissioner Dave Jones, on CoveredCA premium rates:

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"At a news conference Tuesday, Jones said individuals this year paid between 22% and 88% more for individual health insurance policies than they did last year, depending on age, gender, type of policy and where they lived."

Agreed. Has been, in a few states.

Cheers, James Arthur

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