Hey Larkin? How about something new?

I sometimes use Google Groups when it's exceedingly slow at work.

Thanks krw, I have had this several times before and never linked it to google groups. Next problem; sometimes emails come with a vertical line on the left edge of the text. This makes it difficult to intersperse text in the email. Any ideas? Mike

Don't use OuthouseExcess? Block GoogleGroups?

Yep. Tell your friends to stop using Outhouse Excuse ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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Bill's a pal of mine, a good guy, with a cool electronics website[*], and a pretty good recipe for wonton soup.

[*]bowdenshobbycircuits.info

Me? I'm a liberal, or at least I try to be, a real liberal in the dictionary sense of

1.a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.

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2.a. Tending to give freely; generous. b. Generous in amount; ample.

1. Not strict or literal; loose or approximate.

I've got two problems with the way it's used today.

First, the word's been stolen and used to justify selfishness--"you need to pay for me because _____." Being generous with other peoples' money isn't liberal, that's stealing. And, even if you think it's for a good cause, that's not your call.

Second, it's counterproductive. The money taken under that banner doesn't accomplish the public good it was taken for. It actually makes things worse.

But yes, I'd buy that beer, and I'm sure I'd enjoy it!

-- Cheers, James Arthur

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I don't know what the problem is with the quotes. I use Firefox and Google Groups to read and reply. I don't like extra software. There should be a law against writing more software, we have enough already.

-Bill

If you are using web mail switch it to text mode. That stripe, or stripes are used instead of a row of right pointing arrowheads.

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Thanks Michael, But I'm using outlook express and downloading my mail, web mail doesn't seem to be the cause. Mike

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Bill's a pal of mine, a good guy, with a cool electronics website[*], and a pretty good recipe for wonton soup.

[*]bowdenshobbycircuits.info

Me? I'm a liberal, or at least I try to be, a real liberal in the dictionary sense of

1.a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.

and

2.a. Tending to give freely; generous. b. Generous in amount; ample.

1. Not strict or literal; loose or approximate.

I've got two problems with the way it's used today.

First, the word's been stolen and used to justify selfishness--"you need to pay for me because _____." Being generous with other peoples' money isn't liberal, that's stealing. And, even if you think it's for a good cause, that's not your call.

Second, it's counterproductive. The money taken under that banner doesn't accomplish the public good it was taken for. It actually makes things worse.

But yes, I'd buy that beer, and I'm sure I'd enjoy it!

-- Cheers, James Arthur

[snip]

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I have been to it many times, thanks for the site Bill. I'll have to stand by my wifes cooking though, she uses authentic Asian fingers in the making of all her dishes. One of my favorites is Pho', it is basically noodles in chicken or beef broth, (sometimes both). Flavored with chared anise and onion, basil, scallions. The meat can be chicken or thinly sliced lightly cooked beef. Fish sauce, lemon and hot pepper is added to your delight. mmm, mmm

authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.

No problem with that, although their could be some great arguements over how the word progress is defined.

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Ya, when I read #2, I got a chill, as in "your going to be generous with MY money" Then with the next paragraph the room warmed :-)

You are so right! The most glaring failure are generational welfare families. Through all this BP situation I'm seeing people taking great advantage of the easy money BP is giving out, just as they do with government social programs. It has made me develop a simple guideline for all government social programs.

"From the start of any government social program, it must me developed to bring out the best qualities in human behavio,r not the worst."

Human nature is such that a high percentage of us will take a government handout and then not try to improve our finacial lot. If we have to work for the same dollars we can get for no work from the government, we will choose government money*.

• Hard earned taxpayer savings

I suspect your playing with liberal word a bit :-) You are probably a financial conservative. You probably would argue for less government. You probably would argue for less regulation. We would agree some regulation is needed, the devil is in the amount. An intrusive regulation were I live, "No owner, shall cut down, destroy, remove or move, or injure or commit any act that would cause damage to any protected tree located on any property within the city without approval from the director." 18" dia pine trees are protected. It is a $1,000 fine to cut down a tree on my own property. Just one local minor example. You would probably argue for more freedom and more choice. One plank in the rebublican platform that I supspect many conservatives don't agree on is the government interfering in a womans right to choose. Slam! oh, that was me closing the cover on that can of worms.

If I didn't want to show the worst in human behavior, I'd say send the check, and I'll get a coffee Kalua on crushed ice. :-)

Nice conversing with you. Do you think me changing the subject of this thread has taken the heat of of Jims poor behavior yet? Hahahahaha

Mike

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Not the case at all Bill. The SSA monetizes its net excess income as these "special-issue securities" which the rest of the Federal Government then buys to cover its deficits (at a rather favorable rate you should notice). It is right there in YOUR link.

Look at what happens just as soon as SSA has no net excess income; they most now make demand redemption these securities and the rest of the Gov't must look elsewhere to make up the difference. Program reductions and tax hikes must result (eventually).

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Yes, but in exchange for the favorable rate the government gets, I would think the "special-issue securities" carry a better credit rating than the usual treasury bonds traded on the market. It's sort of like first and second mortgages where the first mortgage holder gets paid first, and the second guy gets what's left over?

And as one investment guy once said, "in the long run, we are all dead."

-Bill

Yes, but in exchange for the favorable rate the government gets, I would think the "special-issue securities" carry a better credit rating than the usual treasury bonds traded on the market. It's sort of like first and second mortgages where the first mortgage holder gets paid first, and the second guy gets what's left over?

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The SSA owns a significant part of the national debt. Thus when they quit having surpluses, which are used to finance the national debt, it is a double whammy as they start calling those securities, which have precedence over all other government securities; and to finance the redemptions the government borrows at much higher rates, then the deficit bomb goes KABOOM. =20 SSA just had its first deficit year, 2009.