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An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the election aftermath won't turn out violent

May the best old man win :-)

Reply to
Klaus Kragelund
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Yes lets hope tRump exits

Reply to
Andy Bennet

The USA is supposed to be a democratic country - let's hope that the person most people vote for, wins the election. And let's hope that the winner of the election gets to be the next president.

In other democracies, we take these for granted - but not in the USA.

Reply to
David Brown

The United States isn't a democracy. Search "Is the United States a democracy?" if you don't care for this source.

Reply to
Dean Hoffman

Putin has volunteered sending observers to the US, to ensure the elections are free and fair.

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Reply to
Tom Gardner

Read the first sentence of that web page. "America is a republic and not a pure democracy". I know the USA is not a "pure" democracy (to the extent that a "pure democracy" could even exist). But it is still - or claims to be - a /democratic/ country. Government is by people who are voted in to do the job, with ordinary citizens doing the voting. That is the definition of a representative democracy. The USA has added complications by being a federation of partially independent states, but that's in the details.

Pedantry about the definition of terms is not an excuse for ignoring the will of the people or the letter of the law, and certainly not an excuse for inciting mobs to violence or using corrupt and biased courts to hang on to power - all things Trump has done or said he would do if the vote goes against him. (The Supreme court is heavily biased - whether it is as corrupt as Trump hopes remains to be seen.) These are the actions of a tyrant - and even if you can't comprehend that the USA aims to be democratic, I hope you don't think it should be a dictatorship.

Reply to
David Brown

Maybe they should ask Kim for observers and election advice. North Korea does a better job of ensuring everyone is able to vote, and encouraging them to exercise their democratic rights. There's only one name on the voting lists, but at least there are no armed mobs scaring away people that might pick someone else.

Reply to
David Brown

Is the US a democracy or a republic? It is both a democracy and a republic. A democracy because the people hold the ultimate power. A republic because it is ruled by the law and is not a tyranny and monarchy.

It is best described as a democratic republic.

Reply to
John S

Hmmm. Fox guarding the hen house?

Reply to
John S

The Constitution defines what it is. Any terms you use are your opinion and have no force in law.

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Reply to
jlarkin

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No, the "people" do not hold the ultimate power. One of the wisest quotes ever was Chairman Mao saying, "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." The "people" have pea shooters while the government has real weapon s and is willing to use them.

We have had two recent examples of the "will of the people" being ignored w hen the government blindly followed the Constitution rather than the will o f the people, in one case involving the Supreme Court. While the letter of the law was followed, the will of the people was not. So clearly the "peo ple" do not have "ultimate power". The government does.

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Rickster C

Most monarchies these days are only nominal - the monarch is a figurehead (albeit a useful one), and there is a rule of law. And most tyrannies count themselves as "republic" because they have no monarch (many also name themselves "democracies").

It is, yes.

It is a complicated democracy, and it has too much in the way of "ruling families" (Kennedy, Bush, Clinton - and you can bet if Trump wins this election, he'll push for a new family member for next president, assuming he can't change the constitution to get 3 terms for himself) to be a pure republic.

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David Brown

Well, it is /intended/ that the "people" have the ultimate power.

It is /intended/ that the government is empowered by the will of the people - that's the idea of a democracy. The practice is not always that good. (And the USA fails many of the checkboxes of a good democracy, such as fair voting, with all eligible voters having the same weighting as practically possible.)

Reply to
David Brown

NewsThump guarding the Fox ;}

Reply to
Tom Gardner

Or the "ball of a pen".

CCP would not have survived without lying and decepting the US. CCP, with the help of US reporters, told the US they are true democracy, representing the people. We are know how it turns out.

Reply to
Ed Lee

Strolchi grinst gelassen bis zum Uberdruss, Susi gibt Strolchi einen

Reply to
bitrex

That could be helped with a change in the Electoral College by your state officials. Maine and Nebraska make it possible for there to be a split in the Elector's vote. I'll write about Nebraska. It has three Congressional districts so it has a total of five Electoral College votes. The winner of each Congressional district gets a vote. The winner of the total state vote gets the two Electoral College votes representing the Senators. It's possible for the vote to be split. There would still be a firewall in case the national vote is really close. It wouldn't be necessary for the whole country to do a recount if there's some sort of dispute in one state.

Reply to
Dean Hoffman

tion aftermath won't turn out violent

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Google translate said:

Strolchi grins calmly ad nauseam, Susi gives Strolchi one French kiss, West

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What does that really mean?

Reply to
Ed Lee

+1

I can only add that one vote, but someone in Chicago just found a stack of boxes full of ballots that also have to be counted, just like they did in 1960.

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Reply to
Tom Del Rosso

There would be no chance of violence if the Democratic party hadn't become what it is.

Reply to
Tom Del Rosso

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