great oceanic garbage patch

They can get down on their knees and Thank God everything continued to work for 10 hours straight under those conditions, a ship with those dimensions would have been lost otherwise, 30 ft waves and 74MPH would have capsized it.

dual 20MW azipods- definitely earned their keep on that one:

I can tell you never experianced a storm on the water. Things go really bad, really quick.

Cheers

Looks top-heavy to me, which is maybe why it rolled so much.

It's amazing that people will actually pay to be trapped on that horror.

I once sailed a sloop in the Gulf of Mexico in a pretty good storm. And I've been through several hurricanes on land, including the eye of Betsy. I used to go on sea trials on steamships in the Gulf, but they were all fairly calm.

I did cross the Atlantic on the QE2, and we had a pretty good storm; it was hard to walk in the corridors. I don't get seasick, but lots of people did.

Den mandag den 8. februar 2016 kl. 21.55.56 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:

compared to something like this?

people and bars can weight that much compared to containers full of stuff

-Lasse

They aren't. The construction is lightweight and the vessel isn't passed as seaworthy unless properly balanced.

It surprises me that people see cruises as a good thing they want to go on.

NT

When I was in the Navy stationed on a destroyer, we ran into a storm on our way from Japan. While I was on watch , we took green water on the 01 deck and it knocked the wind shield loose and put about a dozen gallons of wate r into the chart room. We took some 55 degree rolls, There were four ship s in the squadron and sometimes the bow of another ship would come out of t he water so you could see the sonar stack ( under the number 2 gun turret. And sometimes we would be in a hollow and from the bridge you could not s ee any of the other destroyers.

I was telling this to my Uncle Chuck and he said while he was on a bottlesh ip he saw a destroyer take a 90 degree roll, then it capsized and broke up.

My story lost a lot of impact then.

Dan

The Long Island Sound gets these Once every or every other year in humid weather. There is always a casulity from it. They happen so fast, the storms are usually moving fast or developing just north of Queens, that you just have to try to ride it out. Or you just don't venture out that far, even if the forcast says there is a possibility.

Cheers

I once sailed a sloop in the Gulf of Mexico in a pretty good storm. And I've been through several hurricanes on land, including the eye of Betsy. I used to go on sea trials on steamships in the Gulf, but they were all fairly calm.

I did cross the Atlantic on the QE2, and we had a pretty good storm; it was hard to walk in the corridors. I don't get seasick, but lots of people did.

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Small world, I slept through the eye of Betsy. Fell asleep about 11 PM or so, woke up after 7 AM asking where the storm went. Parents stayed up all night, said there was maybe 30-45 minutes of relative silence as the eye passed over our house in Metarie. We had no damage, just no power for a week or so except for one extension cord for a lamp and the refrigerator from a neighbor's generator, but friends close to the lake near City Park had a nice water ring a few inches below the 8' ceiling in their house. That whole area flooded pretty bad. What steamships? Dad worked for Lykes Steamship Co. doing hull design and then a few small repair yards in New Orleans (Bolands and Avondale for sure), before we moved over to the big Ingalls Shipyard in Pascagoula.

----- Regards, Carl Ijames

Oh yeah. First it looks just like nasty weather and an hour later the shortwave antenna is torn off, along with some other stuff.

Last time the nice thing about not becoming sea-sick while almost everyone else did was that they opened the food selection to "All you can eat, everything, whatever you like, for free". That was cool. I left a really big tip.

Yeah, if that deck structure is sufficiently flimsy, it won't weigh much.

The water is so far away that it's academic. The "virtual portholes" are big-screen pictures of the water, which you could see just at well in a tacky hotel room in Las Vegas.

Small world, I slept through the eye of Betsy. Fell asleep about 11 PM or so, woke up after 7 AM asking where the storm went. Parents stayed up all night, said there was maybe 30-45 minutes of relative silence as the eye passed over our house in Metarie. We had no damage, just no power for a week or so except for one extension cord for a lamp and the refrigerator from a neighbor's generator, but friends close to the lake near City Park had a nice water ring a few inches below the 8' ceiling in their house. That whole area flooded pretty bad.

We were uptown, on Broadway near Audubon Park. I didn't get much sleep because my mom screamed every time a window blew out. There were so many tree limbs down that the streets were impassible by cars for a week or two. I got around on my motorcycle OK.

What steamships? Dad worked for Lykes Steamship Co. doing hull design and then a few small repair yards in New Orleans (Bolands and Avondale for sure), before we moved over to the big Ingalls Shipyard in Pascagoula.

The LASH ships, built at Avondale. I also designed the controls for the LHA military ships built in Pascagoula, but I didn't go on trials for them. A little work on the DD963's too.

The LHA controls were state-of-the-art stuff, with push-button throttles and digital displays. The Navy couldn't maintain all that, so after a couple years they ripped it all out and replaced it with pneumatics.

----- Regards, Carl Ijames

That doesn't help it in a hurricane, the vessel must maintain its orientation into the wind and waves or it will sink.

Like this one:

And these big ships lost to so-called super waves happen because the wave floods the control room and shorts out all the controls.

You call going into the Sound a few miles from Queens "going out that far" -LOL!

They always look top heavy because you can't see how much is below water. You also don't see how broad the beam is. When a big ship like this starts to roll to one side an enormous amount of water is displaced on that side with a similar amount of displacement coming out of the water creating a huge restorative force. The eye sees the narrow bow and gives the impression the ship is balanced on a narrow keel.

As usual JL is using very little knowledge to condemn a subject he is not familiar with.

The ocean is brutal. Nothing much stands up against a few billion pounds of wave. Not ships, houses, oil rigs, windmills.

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o work for 10 hours straight under those conditions, a ship with those dime nsions would have been lost otherwise, 30 ft waves and 74MPH would have cap sized it.

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It has an 8m draft- and no water is displaced when it slides down a 30ft tr ough. Then the profile offers a HUGE resistance to broadside winds making t he resulting force due to 90MPH considerable. The bottom line is if the cap tain was sweating, which he was, the situation is dangerous.

A nasty, pulsed, hopefully non-resonant stimulus.

Rick doesn't seem to savvy freeboard. A little bit goes a lonnnnnggggg way in a blow.

Cheers, James 'Pegleg' Arthur

...empties......

RL