garbage bins/ securuty gates and RFID

The problem: There are 12 townhouses (all tenanted) on a single block of dirt. Their 12 garbage bins are in a single masonry enclosure about 2 x 3 metres with a 1.2 metre wide entry. There used to be a couple of recycling bins, but they are now gone. The problem is that the tenants are in the lower social economic bandwidth and some do not take their bins out (possibly because they are having a layover somewhere else or just forgetful or just don't care), the other problem is that some never bring in their bins which causes complaints to the council who write to the tenant and if the bin is not brought in they come around and impound the bin until a fee is paid at which time they return the bin. Do you think they pay a fee? No. Less bins, means using someone else's, and rubbish piles up in the enclosure when all the bins are full.

Also, there will be built soon, across the front boundary, security fencing, security entry gate (vehicle) and entry gate (pedestrian) and intercom system.

My solution: Thinking electronically, I wonder if an RFID system would work here in conjunction with the proposed intercom system. Maybe it would beep (repetitively) the intercom until their bin was taken out and then beep them until the bin was returned.

I am sorry to any would be inventors out there that were thinking along these lines and were ready to lodge their patent application. Now that this is in the public arena it's too late:(

Further on: We actually have had all the 240 litre bins replaced with a single 760 litre bin that was picked up twice a week. However the capacity is less than the 12 x 240 litre bins that were there before on a weekly pickup. This meant that overflow rubbish was also piling up in the enclosure due to lack of capacity. I would like to see the return to the 12 bins due to the problem with the garbage truck getting access after the security gates are installed and also dealing with the excess garbage problem.

So I am wondering if any system is around or would this idea work.

Thanks for any thoughts, Paul.

They'd probably disable the intercom. 8-)

IIRC, when seat belts were first installed in US cars some owners got fed up with the constant warning if they drove without the seat belt, and smashed the indicator.

Leon

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The only thing that will work is to evict the destructive tenants!

The second thing that might work is to place the bins so they do not need to be taken out and put back in the first place - or pay a guy to do it. The tenants, who do not give a toss, will still dump rubbish wherever they please.

Knock down the masonry structure, giving you room for an honest to god dumpster. One of them should be able to cover 12 townhomes with only a once a week pickup.

You included so much extraneous and irrelevant information in that description that it is clear you have a *severe* reasoning problem. Like who gives a damn that the hovels are on a "single block of dirt"-and what the hell is a "single block of dirt" anyway. Stay away from the tenants before you're the one who ends up in one of those "bins".

Always one to look at the glass half empty. Maybe he just made the story up cause he was a bored EE student and is trolling for an idea for a senior project.

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I can see you're a belligerent p.o.s, s.o.b., and w.a.a.s.o.t.e. looking for a beating- here's hoping the tenants turn you into dog food...

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Then your problem is the bureaucracy, replace them and move on!

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As is implied, your problem isn't technological, it's human. You need to hit them either in the hip-pocket or evict them, which ever solves the problem. If it really is a problem (for anyone but you, as you don't explain why it is). Upshot - make it their problem, so it resolves itself.

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Yes, you're correct - it's human. I've had this human problem for 10 years and over that time my agent has tried various means to get them to be pro-active. I believe the answer can be solved with technology - for a start it's reliable - unlike humans.

My idea is for the intercom to give a beep or a short series of beeps at intervals of say 10 minutes if the bin was in the wrong position at a particular point in time and my request was for some information as to how that could be enacted using RFID for that specified enclosure.

In looking at the replies though, I think I must have cross posted.

Cheers, Paul.