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static friction would be before it starts slipping

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Lasse Langwadt Christensen
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Rubber deforms. At moderate torque (or tangential force) it's more like creeping than slipping, but it measures as slippage.

Friction causes heat, and heat makes rubber sticky, which increases the coefficient of friction.

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Jasen Betts

A motorcycle cop stopped me yesterday for going 25 in a 25 zone. He couldn't give me a ticket so I got a lecture. I said "Yes, sir!" which is the logical way to treat cops. They should teach that in grammar school.

It's true that cops resent red cars.

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  Claude Bernard
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jlarkin

Softening some types of rubber helps it stick. Apparently in drag racing you do a burnout to warm up slicks but not road tires.

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Phil Hobbs

I guess it's not entirely static when there is a rolling contact. Not to mention flames.

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jlarkin

I suspect orange cars are worse in that respect.

Was the lecture interesting, or did it make any sense?

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Tom Gardner

You're no fun anymore.

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Phil Hobbs

He was talking at me through the passenger window, at a red light, sitting on his running motorcycle. He said that I should go slow because there are pedestrians on Diamond Street. I said that I was being very careful about pedestrians, and he said "That doesn't matter."

So no, he made no sense. And I had just seen two cars run stop signs.

I got another ticket last year, the red car syndrome again. The cop filled out the ticket form wrong, so the violation went away.

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jlarkin

Hitting things and people isn't fun. City driving is a stream of hazards these days, every sort of wheeled device you can imagine and some you couldn't, mostly battery powered and unlicensed. For good dynamics, I like a deserted country road in the mountains.

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jlarkin

My commute takes about 5 minutes, 1.5 of which is spent at one longish stop light. There are lots of good twisty roads with decent visibility round here, including a fair number where you can get the authentic thrill while going slow enough that most cops wouldn't pull you over.

Of course that's in a convertible, where you can have a silly grin plastered on your face without getting into serious oversteer and manly stuff like that. With the top down, it gets pretty loud if you go much over 50 mph, so winding secondary roads are key.

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Phil Hobbs

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Phil Hobbs

Lol, I love fun time. but that's not my idea of fun.

NT

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Tabby

Well, it's true that motorsports can hardly compete with the thrill of putting _two_ spoons of Ovaltine into the hot milk. ;)

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Phil Hobb

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Phil Hobbs

Some people get a kinetic thrill from speed and acceleration, and some get sick. Just different people. Roller coasters and museums.

Skiing and electronic design are both waveforms. Some people like high slew rates.

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jlarkin

I never would have guessed that was your idea of fun!

Motorsport has its place, and it's not on the road. The UK is not like the US in some respects.

NT

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Tabby

No different here in USA...people buy those type cars for "ego boosters" for the most part. Richer people buy yachts for the same reasons, I expect. Nothing practical about either, but if you got the dough, give it a go!

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Bill Martin

What's different is that the culture of speeding & road racing is alive & well there. It died out here decades ago.

NT

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Tabby

Lots of empty roads here, with a lot fewer cameras.

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Phil Hobbs

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Phil Hobbs

That culture became impossible in the early 80s here. Surveillance has ramped up hugely since then of course.

NT

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Tabby

Sure, because you folks live in a garden, whereas by comparison we live in a wilderness with lots of good twisty roads. ;)

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Phil Hobbs

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Phil Hobbs

Am 01.09.20 um 00:17 schrieb Phil Hobbs:

, all of them different. Reminds me at nethack. Did you play that in a previous life?

Gerhard

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Gerhard Hoffmann

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