No. I believe that we haven't got a clue about what created the universe, and I doubt that it is a question worth asking. I do believe that we have some fairly clear ideas about what created us from pre- exisitng life-forms, and a divine creator doesn't seem to be a useful hypothesis in that area.
Non-existent for Rich, who doesn't understand very much at all, and is too ignorant to have any chance of working precisely how remarkably ignorant he is. Most scientificly educated people can do much better.
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Ed Prochak wrote: ) The fact is though, physics will likely never answer that question. ) How do you describe, mathematically or otherwise, what exists before ) existence?
The concepts of 'before' and 'after' are aspects *of* existence, so that question is meaningless.
I think Plato already answered that one.
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This may explain why so many government decisions (any party, any country - no partisanship here) are so appalling - all their computrons are being sucked into the surrounding vacuum.
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Perhaps, but it is a position frequently advanced in discussions about science: "nothing is omniscient". (We had an example upthread, albeit not in those precise words. If nothing is to be omniscient, it must surely require an awful lot of computrons (and cluons). It is not unreasonable, then, to conclude that /either/ there is an omniscient being /or/ vacuums are computron attractors.
(We do talk a lot of tosh in c.p sometimes, don't we?)
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Everything is a clue about what created the universe.
How long would it take an ant farm to figure out the logic behind human urban planning?
Their do have genetic manipulation and their society is very efficient but before they can understand the design of the park they would have to be familiar with human perspective.
Sol may know much more about planetary design, she might not know ants exist.
I guess the question is worth asking (for me at least), just don't expect to find the answer.
The numbers behind the decimal point make up an infinite string of numbers. Du to temprature changes and electron spin the length changes all of the time.
The further we go behind the decimal point the faster the numbers change.
We go further and further and the speed of change goes faster and faster without any end.
The amount of data contained by the string is exactly as big as the change in the rest of the universe. A relation between the changes also exists. There is influence, there are laws of change/nature.
So who is to say there isn't a galaxy inthere? There is sufficient data, all required components exist. Announcing constant values for anything is quite hilariously wrong.
(as a side note: In the 16th century this constant motion was referred to as THE perpetual motion. This falsifies all later definitions.)
From another perspective, our universe appears mostly empty it is made out of nothing, it contains nothing. We don't exist, so why would that what doesn't exist in the flask not be a universe? There seems to be a sufficient amount of nothing and emptiness?
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