Customs stopped checking out counterfit ICs?

Sep 05, 2010 57 Replies

They did -- and eBay just rolls over and does as asked, without even taking a

15-second glance to see whether or not the reason for the request has any basis in reality.

Although I suppose they don't have a whole lot of choice in the matter -- they'd likely be risking some liability if they got in the middle, I suppose.

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I've been in your killfile for years, but you know I never post anything other than ankle biter comments?

So you think that Customs should he the judge and jury?

So you thin that Customs should work in a vacuum, with no input from the IP owner (or licensee)?

Go for it. Then counter for restraint, Sherman, libel, and a bad hair day.

You think they're going to respond without motivation?

They sent me back a boilerplate response today. I sent them a polite response... perhaps I can get to someone who can actually think there...

One sentence in the boilerplate did make me think: "Please be advised that eBay was notified because the item in question was identified as containing counterfeits and/or infringements of Apple's federally-registered trademarks and/or copyrights, based on the photographs and description you provided. These trademarks include, among others, the Apple logo, home screen icons and the home button." -- The phone in question is made to *look* roughly like an iPhone (see, e.g.,

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In my case, my ISP said they were certain of my alleged transgression becq\ause an independent third-party group running sophisticated software had analyzed their network traffic and determined I was committing a crime. I scoffed, "People and software - whoever heard of those entities making errors?"

You are way too trusting of government.

Security show is far more inportant to the politicians than real security.

When the military is getting bilked, it changes the issues, think it through.

Yes, America is becomming as publucly corrupt as African nations.

Is there nobody else here that remembers some threads within the past year about some regulars here getting burned by counterfeit power transistors?

Yes, and there are pictres online where a real part and a fake were cracked open to show multiple, small dies in parallel, in place of the real die.

Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them.

Or, the case a guy I met told me of...

Major Cel Phone Company contracted with chinese plant to build 500K cel phones, and told him (chip manufacturer rep) to expect order for

500K parts.

Order comes in for 1M parts! he checks with chinese rep, No, no mistake, they need 1M parts.

Factory was going to go ahead and build 1M units, and sell the extras themselves. Whether they were for 'domestic' consumption, or export as 'counterfit' he didn't know!

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There's a difference between obtaining input on a decision and simply letting another party take the decision for you; particularly when there's reason to believe that they may have an "aspirational" interpretation of their legal rights.

SO you think the government should have the expertise to know a fake IC from a real one? You think the bureaucrat should be the judge and jury?

That's a good point, and one probably wide enough to not invite a suit. ;-)

Yup. And FWIW, we've been burned before with counterfeit SRAM.

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It's a QA maxim that you can't test quality in, so buying through unknown channels abandons any hope of complete quality control.

Well, as you're mentioning "judge and jury" ... in a trial neither the judge nor the jury are experts on the matter being tried. Instead, they hear evidence on specific facts from both sides, then make their decision. They don't just let the plaintiff decide the verdict.

I agree, and as I stated in the thread I don't like or approve of buying from brokers such as Part Miner (spit). BUT, if there are no other choices as a lead time of 8+ weeks has developed and your customer is screaming for product, there's not many alternatives.

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