clamper

Nov 05, 2024 Last reply: 1 year ago 8 Replies

I want a small cheap voltage clamper device. I'd like under 2 volts drop at 1 mA, but minimal current at a few hundred millivolts.



I tried two small diodes in series, but that's terrible. Better is a logic-level mosfet with gate connected to drain. It clamps nicely at



1.5 volts or so but conducts picoamps at a few hundred mV, over 1000:1 better than the diodes.

This will go between the force and sense leads of a 4-wire temperature sensor thing so it automatically works in 2-wire or 4-wire mode.



The alternative is to use two SSRs and let the user explicitely declare 2-w or 4-w mode.



A red LED. I’ve measured some which leaked less than 50 fA at 20 C, from

-5 to +0.5 V.

I used them as switches for a pyroelectric array, with bias current supplied by illuminating them faintly under processor control.

They were cheap CML parts in early transfer- molded board (TMB) SMT packages, and are now discontinued.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

That's an idea. Maybe use the two LEDs inside a dual optocoupler. They are always in the dark.

Use two diodes in series, with the junction between the diodes actively driven by an op-amp follower to be the same voltage as the low-leakage node. The op-amp can be a low bias current type, like LMC662 etc.

TL431, or active opamp clamp

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Seems to me that poking any current into the junction of the upper diode pair must make a current source error.

Maybe I'll just use two isolated switches and let the user select 2w or 4w measurement mode. One ACPL227 should work, and I can use that somewhere else too.

You didn't tell me that *both* ends of your clamp needed to have low leakage.

Something like this? Opamps work well as voltage clamps. But your input voltage must suit for the amp.

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I did explain the function, automatic 2-wire or 4-wire measurements.

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