calculate single-sided PCB transmission line impedance?

I wondered if trace on a single sided PCB could be optimised to resemble a 50 ohm transmission line. It will be enclosed largely between ground areas.

But looking around on the web I have so far only found dual layer calculators for microstrip or striplines with ground planes.

Does anybody know some calculator, reading material or an simply example?

Cheers,

Joop

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Joop
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Hello, What you want is a co-planar waveguide.

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Download the milmega RF calculator, it has a line calculator.

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Hello Joop,

The program TXLINE can calculate the impedance for a CPW with or without a ground plane. Google: txline.zip

I just tried the TXLINE-program for CPW with FR4(Er=4.5). Z=50 Ohm, no ground plane W=2mm, gap=0.25mm Z=50 Ohm, no ground plane W=3mm, gap=0.35mm

Best regards, Helmut

CPW=Coplanar Waveguide

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Helmut Sennewald

Appcad will also do cpw, with and without flip-side ground plane.

Increasing the gap eventually produces the single trace, single-sided board case. In older versions of Appcad, as the gap increased the impedance started going back *down*, but they've fixed that.

Lots of formulas and many programs produce goofy numbers when the situation deviates from their sweet spot. Negative impedances are a dead giveaway that something isn't right.

John

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John Larkin

Thanks, at least I know the right terminology now. Always nice to be buzzword compliant ;-)

While trying TXLINE I quickly get an error that the substrate height H should be > 2(w+2g). Your values only can be reached with super thick PCB material (6mm or so). What did you specify to get to these numbers? Perhaps I am not operating the program right.

Joop

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Joop

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