Build your own Over Unity Motor

Yes. Also reminds me of getting change for a twenty at a carnival - or a solicitation for an overseas wire transfer on ebay. If you catch them in the act, they always get nasty.

But not before lecturing us in basic electronics, resonant circuits and Q ;-)

Frank

yeah, but only 100kHz. Its out of a military UPS that I did a lot of design work on. it looks really pretty too. I should have patented it, but Im kinda glad we didnt.

Cheers Terry

-S2.pdf

twc-s3.pdf

So, you fixed everything and made yourself right by shorting out the secondary and never using the power on the secondary. You will always sound or seem right as long you do the wiring job.

You short the secondary:

Nothing wrong with me, I'm not afraid to use windings, brushes or commutor to collect the power from the secondary.

It's shorted for the sake of producing magnetic lines. AC magnets attract open coils, repel close/short circuited coils. You can think about where the brushes belong.

Here's what a series tuned will do, Act like a short circuit, and as long you are using AC, you have the frequency to design your series circuit around.

I guess you are too far above me, and won't really pull out a 1:1 bifilar wound transformer to test it's resonant frequency against a series of different load resistanced from open to shorted and somewhere inbetween. Using the primary winding of a 1:1 as the inductor in a series tuned circuit is the whole key after the brushes. The center frequency does not change no matter what the load is, open, shorted, or anywhere in between. It looks like a short circuit due to resonance when the secondary is open. It really falls into the catagory of a short circuit when the secondary is shorted. The only loss, is from two cores. One the rotor/stator transformer core, two the transformer required for the series tuned circuit and impedance matching.

You all are declaring that it will not work, and are not doing any math. A transformer is just two inductors, and the 1:1 bifilar has that unique quality where the inductive reactance of L1 is always equal to L2 and the mutual inductance of both to a fine point that reflected impedance does not effect the value of L1 or L2 unlike step up or step down transformers. In a resonant circuit only Q is effected/the ring value, and when the secondary is shorted Q=3D1. At the center frequency of the tuned circuit Q is at it's highest value when the secondary is open. With a series tuned circuit, the isolation transformer always appears as a short circuit when the circuit is tuned to the same frequency as the AC power supplied to the motor.

I'm not wrong. You just label me wrong because, you actually short the secondary in your motors, and it's obvious to me that never had to be the case. I know that I would need to pass 740 watts through the rotor/stator transformer circuit and the series tuned circuit to have

1 horsepower. But, that never prevents me from using a bridge rectifier following the 1:1 isolation transformer, nor charging the batteries providing the AC converter power to apply to the windings of the motor. Therefore, it is not impossible to make the battery last 24.5 times longer if I just drained them out.

After that, the math dictates it only takes about 20 to 30 watts of core loss for every horsepower.

All of your induction motors don't need the short circuited secondary as a rotor, unless you insist that they'd be brushless. The same is true for the squirrel cage motors.

I don't think that any of you can tell me how many problems can be produced by this puzzle, and I wrote the thing.

It's simple magic squares. Add up any row or column and each column and row adds up to the same number. I don't believe any of you are that smart.

If one person could tell me how many puzzles there are at that one link, and not how many answers there are, I would be amazed. There are only 90 answers.

I don't think any of you are intellegent enough to tell me how this card trick works. But, then there could be two people I wouldn't think were just full of shit.

tesla.http://www.mag-inc.com/pdf/twc-s3.pdf

No use case. There lies the real problem. The use case is important to reveal the math shell game. For any applied AC frequency at the stator, What is the motor speed? Then we can calculate the slip and the frequency in the rotor winding.

Frank

Dude, that must be like one of the oldest card tricks ever! It's much more impressive if it's done live because the magician has to swap the set of cards without you seeing.

WC-S2.pdf

f/twc-s3.pdf

maximum is dependant on the structure and design of the motor with 6 stator coils 1/6th the frequency in Hz. But, if you really read, that's the maximum unloaded RPM. The point is that starting from 0 RPM has too much resting inertia not to see several cycles. It's even possible to design an all AC stepping motor, but you are not seeing it. If the stator windings occupy a space that is 1/3rd the width of the rotor windings, from left to right, if coil's 1 and 2 are on/ shorted and coil 3 is off/open the AC applied to the coil on the rotor will move to the right and attempt to center over coil 3. Assume that the rotor has 3 coils and the stator has 9. If every coil on the rotor shares the same ground 4 brushes isolate the coils and allow for a series resonant circuit set asside for each to operate acting as shorts without the short being within the construction or design of the rotor alone. Being the the coil used in the series resonant circuit is tuned to the same frequency as the AC supplied to the system and the primary of a 1:1 bifilar wound impedance/isolation transformer, then the motor preforms as a transformer with 2 primaries in parallel and one open secondary on the stator and a shorted secondary on the rotor.

Here's the odd part. Once upon a time, I was in charge of hiring and firing. In the process I held a conversation with Human Resources about the right people for the job because, I was tired of arguing. Conversations included UFOs, Time Travel, Over Unity. The answers had to be, I don't know, there has to be a way, it would be hard to explain how a UFO got here, if there's a way I'd like to know, I've tried a few things and nothing worked yet, I believe in it and don't know. I don't need anyone who's already given up to build anything that they don't completely understand. Programmers, had to have machine language, assembly language, be fully affiliated with basic, and or quick basic, and just needed a 4.0 or a 5.0 if they were a vet from a list of states colleges or universities. They were not hired in electronics, robotics, nor for the design of power systems if they didn't believe there was a way and that UFOs had to follow the laws of physics in some way that we may not understand. I wouldn't hire anyone for the job that had already given up, or was all about the textbooks and had no ideas.

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You've misquoted me Dave -- I didn't write any of the above.

Cheers, James Arthur

teslas

tesla.http://www.mag-inc.com/pdf/twc-s3.pdf

Math won't convince the doubters, and mechanical/electrical input and output power measurements are subject to prestidigitation. Here's a simpler test: use this over-unity motor to power an efficient generator. Feed the generator output back to the motor.

If the thing spins faster and faster until it blows up, then The Flavored Coffee Guy gets a free coffee. I'm buying.

Cheers, James Arthur

What color is the sky in your dreamland?

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James, apologies. Don' know what happened there except I snipped incorrectly!

Ergs and grams are do not have the same base dimensions.

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No worries.

Cheers, James Arthur

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Wind it bifilar but don't twist the wire. First, find the output impedance of a given transformer. Find the value of XL that will match that. Then find the value of capacitor that is resonant at that same frequency. It's an oddity. Bobbin wound transformers will not work properly. But, under these conditions after calculating Q based upon the winding resistance, you will find that at the AC power frequency having the capacitor in series with the primary winding will always act like a short circuit. This allows the secondary from the motor to produce the maximum number of magnetic lines within the rotor core which are a product of the total current flow in amperes. The value of Q of this bifilar 1:1 transformer will drop when your short the secondary, and it always appears like a short circuit to the secondary/rotor windings open or closed. The reason for that is series resonant circuit comprised of the capacitor in series with the primary winding shown in the schematic on page 4 at

The rotor and the stator of a motor are represented by a series of coils and switches instead of the schematic symbol for a motor. When you take a squirrel cage motor or induction motor apart, it functions as a series of coils in a circuit. Most motors short the secondary/ rotor windings internally for the sake of designing a brushless motor. But, if you put brushes back in there, you can take the power from the secondary and the whole trick is that one series tuned circuit. Without that, you couldn't reclaim the power from the secondary/rotor of the induction motor because, you would have to use all of the power to produce a short circuit then the result would be mechanical horsepower at it's maximum on the rotor of the motor. I had to explode the motor to make the circuit make sense in the rational electronic sense of what is going on inside.

Since then, I've been looking at this device.

It's a generator that works based upon making and breaking lines of magnetic flux. Kick EMF in a generator is usually counter productive in the generation of power. It's completely untested and needs to be placed on a test bed to be evaluated. Aside from the fact that my geometry is a little tweaked. I know what to do to fix it, but my drafting software is so slow it took all day to produce one image the last time I ran it. I'm not drawing any more fine coils, they make it so slow that it's like making molasses into shit on a cold day.

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ore

Okay, Dave might be intelligent and observant. At least intelligent, not retarded, not so ignorant, does read, pay attention. Kay, do the math.

Why is it, that human intelligence is limited, but human stupidity has no limit...?

(cheesy grin)

Michael

So true. Ergs are units of energy. (1 erg = 1E-7 J)

Unless he's going the E=mc^2 route?

Michael

theory:

work:

Drives

Ok. Let me give you the benefit of the doubt, and say that it works.

Why don't you connect your over-unity motor to a generator?

Use the electric power to distill seawater.

Use the electric power to produce hydrogen from water.

Use the electric power to generator to produce sodium hydroxide, and sell it.

Use the electric power to produce aluminum and magnesium metal.

You can sell the distilled seawater and hydrogen, too.

What are you still doing here in the newsgroup? Get to work!

Michael

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This doesn't mean I agree with you.

I tried reading your "paper" but it was so badly written that I gave up after a while. By badly written I don't mean the standard of english, moreover your inability to build and logically follow through a proper argument to prove your hypothesis.

Additionally I don't see you considering all the elements that stop a machine and in particular an electric motor from having 100% efficiency let alone greater than 100%. There are the heating of components due to currents flowing through resistances, both electrical and magnetic. There is the mechanical friction of components and bearing systems and there is windage in the motor/s to consider as well.

However anything I or anyone else say is to some degree imaterial when _all_ you have to do is demonstrate the working machine. So far you have not done this and until you do no one will listen. When you do the whole world will listen and be amazed and bow before you offering themselves as a pitiful sacrifice for all the doubt they ever had in you!

Dave.

So many heads. So few brains.

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