Broadband speeds

Sep 10, 2009 25 Replies

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"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

Performance enhancing seeds?

Cheers

=A0 =A0...Jim Thompson

Nobody seems to remember SneakerNet, when you copied your file onto and 8" floppy and walked it across to its destination.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Good story made the news around the world. Bit hard on Telkon though.

Although highly amusing as a report it isn't far off what you would expect for a basic ADSL connection on old copper wire. ASDL is by design assymetric - bulk uploads are typically a factor of between 4 and 10 times slower than downloads. So if they have a poxy 1MB line with

250kb/s upload ~25kb/s => 40s /MB then 4GB will take 4000x longer ~ 43h.

The pigeon will win hands down if it takes only a couple of hours - with even better data rates if they use 8GB or 16GB pigeon friendly media.

Regards, Martin Brown

Bill Sloman Inscribed thus:

Easier than carrying a box of punched cards down to the data room !

Best Regards: Baron.

I use SneakerNet 3.0. Copy the data onto a USB memory stick and carry it to the other computer.

There was a report that in South Africa someone is sending data by putting SD memory cards on carrier pigeons. The transfer rate is higher than the local "high speed" internet.

On a sunny day (Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:08:46 +0100) it happened baron wrote in :

I'v been mailing CDs and DVDs for many years. It is only recently upload from my site is faster. But Blu-Ray then wins again. Especially when you need to send to more then 1 destination, snail mail is faster. And not every destination has a DSL connection either.

I participated in one like this just a few years ago, although we used CD-RWs. ;-)

Cheers! Rich

In the 1980's in a BBS network I once saw a discussion about how Iceland was connected to the rest of the world. A person worked in the UK and spent the weekends in Iceland carrying floppies with him both ways :-).

Also in the 1980's a common wisdom was that nothing beats the transfer capacity of a truck full of 1/2 inch magnetic tapes.

In those days a few 14 inch 300 MB disk packs in a car could transfer quite a lot of data within a city. Of course at sub-zero temperatures, you had to be very careful that the disk packs did not cool too much, which might cause condensation, when moving the packs into a warm and humid computer room. Any condensation could cause head crashes, if the disk packs did not reach room temperature, before inserting into the disk drive :-)

Paul

As the old saying goes, "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a 747 full of tapes."

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal ElectroOptical Innovations 55 Orchard Rd Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 845-480-2058 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

Apparently, the High-Energy Physics folk (CERN etc) prefer to send RAID arrays. When you're dealing with that much data, copying to/from tape takes too long.

In the days of 1200 baud modems and long-distance rates, it was faster and cheaper to give a guy a 9-track tape reel and a coast-to-coast airplane ticket.

John

Before FedEx it was my common practice to take a mailing tube with D-size drawings or stabilene layouts to the American Airlines ticket counter in Phoenix. They would give it to a pilot going to San Jose. My foundry guy would pick them up at the San Jose ticket counter.

Same day delivery for, IIRC, $36 ;-)

Of course this was back in the days when you could park at the curb, walk directly to the ticket counter, without a line... before TSA :-(

...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC\'s and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

As someone once said, never underestimate the bandwidth of a truckload of DVDs

Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party http://www.onetribe.me.uk/wordpress/?cat=5 - Our podcasts on weird stuff

Back when the pilot leaned out the window and yelled 'CONTACT' so the ground crew would hand spin the propeller. ;-)

You can\'t have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

Yep ;-)

I flew DC-3's Huntington-Boston-Huntington regularly from 1958-1962. My first trip to Phoenix was on a DC-7... Boston-Chicago-Phoenix, except it ended up being Boston-over Chicago-St.Louis-Chicago-Phoenix due to thunderstorms :-(

Then I regularly flew the infamous Lockheed Electra... even after the FAA enforced a speed limit... due to the wings vibrating and failing due to metal fatigue... falling off :-(

It used to have a stand-up bar in the back... that's where I learned to like Martini's ;-)

...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC\'s and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

While the wings fell off? ;-)

You can\'t have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

Fortunately not. There were (IIRC) three failures in rapid succession, they were grounded, then resumed operation with speed restricted. I always liked them, comfortable, lacking the shake-you-awake vibration of DC-3's ;-)

...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC\'s and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

That reminds me of the classic SNL skit where they are welcoming passengers to the airlines brand new DC-101s when the DC-10s were grounded.

You can\'t have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

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