Blue LED at 3.3V

May 25, 2010 98 Replies

How are these data as function of temperature faring when current is

25 or 20 or 15 % of "characterizing current", when efficiency is improved by current into the range of 15-25% of "characterizing current", in addition to lower temperature that favors increase of ratio of light output to LED current, more-so when the LEDs in question are underpowered?
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

On a sunny day (Tue, 25 May 2010 19:40:25 -0700) it happened John Larkin wrote in :

I wanted to say: Just use resistor to heat up the LED. Perhaps a NTC could be used, not sure if it would be easy to fidn teh right one, and mount it next to the lED in parallel with the supply...

Now somebody could invent a LED with all that build in, photo sensor too, to keep light output at a progammable (I2C perhaps) level. Little switcher inside? Current limiter... This is the age of integration, logic level I2C input.

Tim Wescott schrieb:

Hello,

they mix the blue light with yellow light from the fluorescent material, but it is a very narrow blue band and a very broad yellow band. If you look at a spectrum diagram of the resulting light it looks very different to white light from the sun or from a ligth bulb with a glowing tungsten wire.

Bye

Some may indeed by bi-chromic but the ones that I've examined recently with a handheld spectroscope have a remarkably even spectrum from about

420 to 680 nm. It's not a quantitative instrument but there were no obvious emission or absorption lines. Surprised me, in a good way.
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

Hi,

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one,

Nah, A one wire interface with parasitic power.

Maybe a TEC and controller to control the wavelength?

Do you really want LEDs with 80 page manuals (and 5 pages of errata)? ;-)

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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I usually do multilayer boards with power and ground planes. A few bypass caps will do for the whole board, so I don't put one per chip like in olden days.

The average LED current is set by the R and C values, so you don't need another resistor.

The danger is that the drop of the diode+LED had better be less than the max supply voltage. So silicon might be better in some cases.

R and C have to be selected to get the desired LED current. There's a second invisible capacitor, Cin of the gate, that's involved too.

Hmmm, neither C may matter. It might all cancel out. Somebody should do the math.

John

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+3.3V----+-----------+ | | |\| V This is diode or R | \ - +--+| >--+-CC---+ | | / | | | |/| | V light comes out here +------RR--+ - | GND

The IC is a schmitt trigger. (And connected to ground also... connection not shown)

George H.

On a sunny day (Wed, 26 May 2010 08:07:44 -0400) it happened Spehro Pefhany wrote in :

one,

Oh well, one gets used to things :-)

one,

We don't yet use any parts with thousand-page datasheets, but we do have a couple over 800. And the longer the manual, the worse it seems to be.

John

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Who better than the designer?

Besides, that circuit won't work as drawn.

Copy of a scheme by Bob Hirschfeld, at National, 40 years ago... called "The Miser"... ran on a 1.5V cell. ...Jim Thompson

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Wonder why? Wonder how Larkin will excuse that away ?:-) ...Jim Thompson

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Wherever you got your 3.3V from, there's probably OTHER power available. Use that.

Regulated 3.3V power is unsuitable for this task. If that's blocking you, re-engineer it so it doesn't.

I have a day job. An idea isn't a design.

Why not? The schmitt needs to be an inverter to oscillate of course, but that should be obvious to anyone who posts to s.e.d. The point is that a clock, a cap, and a diode will boost 3.3 volts nicely, to drive a 3 volt LED. One could even eliminate the resistor!

Better than any ideas you or JT posted. C'mon, do us a 555 thing. Or something with 85 transistors.

John

Excuses! Excuses! Excuses!

Inverter or buffer, it can't work as drawn. Your day job certainly isn't circuit design :-) ...Jim Thompson

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Theory of "operation" is left as an exercise for the student :-) ...Jim Thompson

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The schmitt has to be an inverter to oscillate, of course. I left out the bubble.

RR could be a short, then it would oscillate faster!

John

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