Bidirectional DCDC Converter

I've been wanting to build a bidirectional DCDC converter. I'm thinking if i make a full-bridge DCDC boost converter i could replace the rectifiers on the secondaray side with MOSFETS and use them as diodes to allow the current to flow from the source to the storage device. Then reverse the opration and the power could flow from the storage device to the source again.

The application 'm thinking of right now for it is a battery to a motor. Normal flow is from battery to motor. Then to stop, regen the energy from the motor and dump it back to the batteries (as much as possible).

Can this actually work as i'm thinking it will? Or am i missing something vial here?

- Tom

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Tom M
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No. Please explain more details of this problem.

Thanks in advance.

Reply to
BFoelsch

You are missing a lot. Start with power going into port A on a presumed device; this gives power out of port B. But there is a filter capacitor on port B, so port B sees a power source - and acts like an input and converts that to power at port A. But port a must have a filter capacitor when it is acting like an output, so.... See the contradiction?

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Robert Baer

Do a web search for "synchronous rectification" -- it's pretty much what you describe.

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Tim Wescott

Yes, you can build bi-directional synchronous converters. But for your application, I think you may find that your motor used as a generator produces significantly less voltage than it requires as a motor, so you may be better off with two separate circuits each optimized for its own job, and logic to control them.

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Ol' Duffer

That is already used in some electric/hybrid vehicles. Search for "regenerative braking bidirectional converter". You'll find tons of information.

Reply to
Mochuelo

Can't find the sense in what you wrote, and especially in your attempt to relate capacitors with power sources, or with outputs. The Buck converter, for instance, does not need a capacitor at its output.

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Mochuelo

Hello Mochuelo,

Like this one:

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Regards, Joerg

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Joerg

...and it *cannot* work in reverse!

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Robert Baer

...which is not whathe was relating to at all.

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Robert Baer

Yep, it can and does work just fine.

I have a few small planar forward SMPS sitting in front of me that use synchronous rectification (FETs instead of diodes). At no load, because the FET happily conducts current in either direction when ON, the output inductor current is a triangle wave centred on zero amps - no discontinuous inductor current :). When the primary FETs turn ON, the initial primary current is negative. Voila, reverse power flow.

Cheers Terry

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Terry Given

Yes it is. Who cares where the reverse power comes from (in this case the output inductor) its still flowing backwards.

(+ve Dc bus volts)*(-ve primary current) = -ve power.

Cheers Terry

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Terry Given

Yes it can. Use a synchronous rectifier. Then turn off the main FET (which has an anti-parallel diode) and what do you have - a BOOST converter, moving power from the output to the input. Then turn the main FET back on, giving a boost converter with a synchronous rectifier.

Cheers Terry

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Terry Given

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