Best PDF viewer?

Nov 16, 2007 66 Replies

Paid version? The free version of AA Reader saves to disk without modifying the PDF. The free version of Foxit doesn't.

how does that happen?

Are you an Adobe troll?

Martin

No! Adobe sux whale s*it! My problem with foxit is that I used the free version and liked it, and saved dozens of data sheets to my hard drive, only to find out later that it had modified every one. I had to find them all again and save them using the sucky Acrobat Reader. If someone is promoting a paid replacement for the free Adobe PDF reader, they should point that out and that the free version of the replacement lacks functionality.

Jan Panteltje hath wroth:

Yep. The link has to end in a PDF. It can't do redirected links imbeded in JavaScribble, PHP, or whatever. For example, it will fail on just about all the transactions, standards, abstracts, and pubs on the IEEE web pile, that claim to be PDF's, but are really scripts that make sure you're a valid IEEE member.

For these, just hit the "Bypass PDF Download" button. It will open the PDF viewer and you can save it from there. The screenshots page above seems to have an old sample of the PDFdownload screen as it's missing the "Bypass PDF Download" button.

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John Larkin hath wroth:

For me, the major benefit to PDFdownload is when I accidentally click on some link, that redirects to a PDF file. When I was using Adobe Acrobat 6.x and 7.x, the PDF viewer would take literally forever to appear and load the file. If I try to abort, it would usually hang the browser. Even if I didn't abort, the older Acrobat's would eventually hang the browser or crash on shutdown. Running Acrobat as a plugin (as opposed to a helper application) inside the browser was a bad idea.

I got into the habit of saving all the PDF files and viewing them outside the browser. That worked well, but I still would get unexpectedly hit with HTML wrappers and redirection pointing to PDF files.

If you know that the link is a PDF file you want to save or view, you can do it all in Firefox the way you describe. However, if you hit one the redirected links, you end up either saving the useless link, or having to load the viewer just to save the PDF.

The PDFdownload Firefox plug-in gives only a little better control over how to deal with PDF's. However, it's enough to justify installing it. With it, I can decide what to do with the PDF before it tries to start Acrobat.

Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Bog yes, it's very handy. Lets me highlight, cross-out, insert pop-up notes (that don't show when printed) or type additional text onto the page (that does print), plus use some basic drawing tools.

I can't comment on "the free version of Foxit will not save to disk without modifying the PDF" since I don't have the free version but the current (ver 2.2) paid version does not modify a saved file (unless I've used one of the annotation tools, of course). A PDF saved directly from the link and one opened in Foxit and then saved compare bit-for-bit identical.

Foxit does remember the last used location in a saved file (in its registry tree, I assume) which is sometimes handy, sometimes annoying, but the "state" information is external to the file.

Yes it does. I just tried it, and I did a file compare with the original, the files are exactly the same. Nothing has been modified by Foxit. Also, I re-installed acrobat and tried that to read the PDF saved with Foxit, and it works just fine as you'd expect.

Also, even if it did it's super easy to use your browser to save the file to disk first. My Firefox pops up every time asking if I wish to download the file or save it first and then download.

Dave.

Flush the browser plug in. That is just 3cm less space above.

Rene

Now we're getting somewhere. In what way did it modify the PDF file that you found offensive? Perhaps I'm blind, but I've never seen any visible evidence of file modification unless you place a comment in the PDF using the free version. This is clearly stated in their web page, or, it was a year ago. They also state in their web page that the free version lacks certain funtionality. Seems that you didn't read. If you don't like them placing an advert in you PDF, then use their payware version.

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Just did a download from Linear with firefox, and it was opened up foxit, then "saved as" whatever.pdf. I compare the size of the whatever.pdf with the one in the temp directory.

They had different sizes. Strange, well speaking as a non programming type of person, but honestly I'm not paranoid enough to care about it

Martin

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I tried the same thing on an AD811 data sheet (150k) and a PSpice reference guide (2M). Did a file compare. No differences between the files. I'm using FoxitReader 2.2.2129.

Used to use V1.3, upgraded to 2.0 to get the JBIG/JPG2000 compression updates.

Under Win 98SE it lets you view a handful of PDFs before blue screening the PC without warning. A Google reveals other people to be having the same problem, no fix forthcoming, and an email to Foxit got a foboff.

"We have test it with Windows 98 and it is not as serious problem as yours. Please reinstall your system".

Sometimes free software really is worth exactly what you paid for it ...

--------------------------------------+------------------------------------ Mike Brown: mjb[at]pootle.demon.co.uk | http://www.pootle.demon.co.uk/

David L. Jones snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com posted to sci.electronics.design:

Actually AR 7 provides for content that can be filed in and then printed. The first noticeable advance since AR 4. The rest of the bloat between those versions does nothing as far as i can tell.

Adobe Reader is free as well and is pretty much worthless and going worse since version 4.

Even M$ is not supporting Win98 anymore, why should foxit? Move on or live with its short-comings.

M

Ah, that's not good news.

Broken question: Actually they do (did?) support Win98. Well, claim to. In that they say it supports Windows 98, yet it didn't.

I did, I moved on from Foxit back to a newer version of Adobe, which worked.

--------------------------------------+------------------------------------ Mike Brown: mjb[at]pootle.demon.co.uk | http://www.pootle.demon.co.uk/

Mark, Do you know of any PDF creator that can create fillable forms that can be saved by recipients and E-mailed back?

I send out Adobe Acrobat created forms, but recipients can't save and return the filled-in form :-(

...Jim Thompson

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You don't have Acrobat 8? ;-)

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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I have v7 and have no intent to go any further with Adobe crap... their stuff has become SO bad they must think they are Micro$hit ;-)

...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC\'s and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

I used to use Acrobat 5, which for my money was the last "good" PDF reader/writer. I recently bought ($50) CutePDF Pro, which comes on special with the forms filler. Easier than A-5 for fillable forms.

Jim

-- "If you think you can, or think you can't, you're right." --Henry Ford

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

My problem is sending the forms to people who must fill out the forms... and they only have the free Adobe Reader.

Adobe Reader doesn't allow saving a filled-in from or returning the filled-out form by E-mail.

Is there any solution to that?

...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC\'s and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

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