all electric cars in europe

Beat me to it!

It seems to be a common affliction in this group.

There were waves of immigration before europeans showed up. And nasty regional warfare. Who owns the land?

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Government change forced Germany and Japan were welcomed by the entire world. Cos psychopaths had taken control and started a world war. Raving lunatics just like YOU.

...... Phil

Am 18.03.22 um 17:51 schrieb snipped-for-privacy@highlandsniptechnology.com:

Germany is still a net electricity exporter. So, EVs are not completely brain dead.

And Ukraine is on the European net since a week. No problems here.

Living just 20 miles NW of Ramstein, I feel as much taken hostage from the US as from Russia. Not so protected but forced into someone else's influence sphere.

..at least after you have installed your usual puppet regime.

And before that, extinguishing the indigenous population. That's what I'd call a proud tradition.

"What did you call this land before the white man came?" "Ours"

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...... Phil

Just as always , the one with the best military.

Scarcely energy poor, and not noticeably hostage to Russia.

Apart from the lady who broke into the live news with a protest placard, which did shown up on the Australian TV news. Americans don't get all that much international news so John Larkin might not have seen it.

Mostly they are badly educated, and have all sorts of different silly ideas. John Larkin on anthropogenic global warming is an example.

The Philippine and Porto Rico don't count? Banana republics were more of the same. Contragate was a more modern version of the same kind of approach. The invasion of Irak was clearly intended to be the same kind of empire-building but George W Bush and his cronies didn't believe the US Army estimates of the cost of occupying Irak, so - despite all the oil - it didn't turn out to be any more worth holding onto than had the Philippines.

To John Larkin.

US investments in Europe had something to do with that.

John Larkin really doesn't get the point about anthropogenic global warming, does he. As long as the fossil carbon extraction industry is allowed to keep spending big on denialist propaganda, gullible twits like him will stay suckered.

That's actually a Spanish trait and is common in the Spanish speaking countries. These rejas are typically ornamental and their use is essentially a matter of custom, rather than necessity, much like a fence around your yard in the US. Remember that the weather here allows for many outside spaces that are essentially part of the home. So wrought iron serves to define that space rather than completely enclosing it because of the foul weather often encountered in more temperate regions.

One side effect, is that with the nearly universal use, they become self fulling. If your home is the only home in the neighborhood without rejas, it's like leaving your car unlocked, while the other cars are locked.

Yeah, also dumb and blind.

And yet it has been shown very, very clearly, even well enough for you to understand if you choose, that BEVs charging from the grid produce less carbon than ICE and use less power in general. I suppose none of this means anything to you. I get that for sure. One thing that does mean something to you is profanity. Go get 'em tiger! Let the profanity begin!

I appreciate profanity from you because it's what you do when you have no other argument to make.

It's amusing that Larkin can't understand something as simple as slack time in electrical generation. I would have hoped you could understand it.

Perhaps you are thinking of the 50s when people ate dinner on TV trays gathered in front of the television. Now many people get their news from the Internet. I find Google to be a reasonable aggregator of news from various sources. If they are feeding me what they think I want to read, I must be clicking on a bunch of stuff in my sleep. It's weird some of the stuff I skip over.

There's nothing wrong with dissent. The insanity is when people deny facts. This seems to mostly be the result of people who want to manipulate those of lower intelligence, or wish to only hear about things they want to believe.

That's Puerto Rico, thank you very much, "Rich Port".

Yeah, that is a pretty stupid thing to say. I bet people in much of Europe would take offense at that.

I think that was about capitalism, as much as anything. We do tend to think we can install democracy everywhere. Much of Asia just isn't totally compatible with democracy. Vietnam for example. People live their lives and don't worry so much about politics. In the US, we get very excited about so many small details and the important stuff seldom changes.

AGW is a hard sell to anyone who won't believe anything until it smacks them in the face.

On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Mar 2022 20:55:21 +0000) it happened Tom Gardner snipped-for-privacy@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in <t12rjp$7gh$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

I can tell you the same about US, and I _have_ seen bad things there. Beauty is in the beholders eye... Same over here. Human nature East Germany felt a lot safer than United States, But I did see West Side Story before I went to the US and became part of it myself :-) There is crime in Russia too .. Same over here But US is the biggest predator in the world right now mainly because others fear the bomb. Now that everybody and their cat has nukes the fear for the US decreases. Others group together and the US 'Mafia' has the choice of taking a step back or being nuked into oblivion History ... Roman Empire In a war situation most likely US solders will take a knee :-)

Nobody forced the US. The US corporations chose to expand their economic influence.

But you needn't worry. China is taking over the role, especially in Africa and SE Asia.

Not a good example. She now fears for her safety.

Larkin is more accurate here, especially given Putin's recent speech about self-cleansing Russian society, fifth-columnists, and traitors.

I've seen and experienced unsavoury things in the US. My parents returned after 19 months in Pittsburg partly because of that. I don't remember that because I was a toddler.

Completely irrelevant to your original point. Little more than a disgruntled rant.

On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:11:13 +0000) it happened Tom Gardner snipped-for-privacy@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in <t14a81$ia2$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

Looks like you are still a toddler Try understanding what I wrote when you grow up.

No Empire Yet has persisted

Bye Bye America Bye what will be left is some black warlords fighting among each other and cooking the victims in big pots for breakfast.

When archaeologists perhaps dig up the statute of glibbery and hundreds of old cellphones they will wonder: "How did they make those things back in the twentieth century?"

That is if the humming species persists past the nuclear glowball wars Did the last male Dino eat the last female Dino and did that species end that way? They needed BIG food (of course the last female Dino could have eaten the last male Dino, just to be po-littter-cally right, these days).

Some of the maps at

The Europeans had a wide selection of imaginative torture methods at that time too. But mostly these were reserved for settling theological disputes amongst themselves, rather than for military enemies.

It's hard to imagine how it could have been "MUCH" worse. But it's unlikely that it would have been very different.

Please explain the relevance of that rant to the point under discussion: /your/ statement "Never been there, been to East Germany before the wall fell, noted nothing bad about it."

On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Mar 2022 11:18:19 +0000) it happened Tom Gardner snipped-for-privacy@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in <t14e5r$rr3$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

You posted about a couple separating and then marrying again after leaving East Germany. I pointed out crime is everywhere, They were violating laws there.

Here people sometimes get married to get a permit to stay, even if in reality they do noy even live together also a crime against the law.

So you insinuated East German laws were bad, Maybe there was a d*mn good reason for those laws.

How many other laws exactly are you violating?

I mean I do not care, be free to sum th'm all up :-)