We poor humans have been sitting on a knife edge for over a million years, with massive amounts of coal, gas and oil under the ground waiting to be used to vasty improve all our lives.
But we can use barley any of the damn stuff cos the CO2 produced thereby will immediately render the planet uninhabitable to punish us.
For what ??
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The current AGW panic is not well based and driven mostly by folk with hidden agendas. Prophets of Doom are not a new thing. When researchers get alarming results, they are duty bound to publish them - even if only computer model predictions with no history of accuracy.
Once a committee made up of international bureaucrats was given the god like task of deciding if the human race was really in peril - they opted for the least dangerous path, for themselves. Money poured in for more research and was grabbed with both hands, everyone involved well knowing what was the needed outcome and what was not in order to keep the funds and jobs flowing.
Not a hoax as such, but a predictable phenomenon. Funny thing how soon as computer climate models were written they predicted disaster.
The problem is it doesn't explain the warming from around 1900 to 1940, then the slight cooling from 1945 through around 1985, nor the leveling off from around 2004 through 2015...until it is corrected.
Many models, and the experts only choose the ones that agree with current observations - expect these models don't always hindcast well, so they need to be tweaked.
Then there is the Medieval Warm Period, and the Little Ice Age to explain away. Glaciers uncovering forests dating to 900AD...
Just a few bugs I'm sure in the system.
Now they say that angry white men are the root of the problem so have an excuse to ignore anyone over 30 who happens to have light coloured skin who questions the beliefs.
I consider myself a skeptic, and I would like some proof of the Climate Emergency.
But I am past 65 and Caucasian in ancestry so my opinion (based on 1/2 century of experience and awareness) is worth nothing compared to a 16 year old girl in high school who has been self-aware for six or seven years... however she does outrage well - like a regular Valley Girl!
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, with massive amounts of coal, gas and oil under the ground waiting to be used to vasty improve all our lives.
will immediately render the planet uninhabitable to punish us.
This rather ignores the reality that we've burnt enough fossil carbon to bu ild our civilisation to the point where we could stop getting our energy th at way and move over to solar cells, windmills and batteries.
A more responsible civilisation would leave enough fossil carbon in the gro und to let the next civilisation get the same leg-up.
There's nothing particularly cruel in setting up the game so that the playe rs are encouraged to behave responsibly.
dden agendas. Prophets of Doom are not a new thing.
It's kind of difficult to instill the same hidden agenda into the overwhelm ing majority of climate scientists - they are academics, and getting them a ll to have the same idea if the evidence doesn't support it would make herd ing cats look easy.
m - even if only computer model predictions with no history of accuracy.
Anthropogenic global warming is a historical fact. We've now got direct mea surements of CO2 levels going back to 1958 that make it pretty clear what's causing it. The fine detail of what's going on is complicated, and compute r models are handy for explaining what going on, and what's likely to happe n if current trends continue. The models are accurate enough for what they need to do.
ike task of deciding if the human race was really in peril - they opted for the least dangerous path, for themselves.
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate change was put together by politicia ns to give advice in a form that politicians could understand, There's noth ing remotely god-like in reviewing the scientific literature as it gets pub lished and popularising it down to a level that politicians can follow.
ne involved well knowing what was the needed outcome and what was not in or der to keep the funds and jobs flowing.
Phil doesn't know how much money was involved. Academic have always got mon ey to do research, and research on climate change is particularly easy to j ustify.
The amount of money going into academic research in general hasn't gone up
- so in that sense money hasn't poured in.
Phil's capacity to do prophecy has yet to be demonstrated. His capacity to soak up and retail denialist propaganda is demonstrated rather too often.
ed disaster.
A rather slow moving and undramatic disaster. End of the world stories move a lot more rapidly.
A second prolonged drought in Australia, following up the Millenium Drought , and a spectacularly early and destructive start to the bush-fire season m ight have clued us in.
Not everybody is as clueless as Phil, oor such an easy mark for denialist p ropaganda.
In Australia at the moment the party in power has clearly been generously b ribed by the people who dig up coal and sell it top power stations to encou rage the utility companies to build more coal burning power stations.
The utility companies - who are motivated by a supremely leftist desire to make money on on the power they sell - are putting all their investment int o solar farms and windmill farms (which are cheaper per kilowatt hour gener ated). As the percentage of intermittent generation rises they have to star t paying for pumped storage and battery storage, which does cost money, but not enough to make burning coal economically attractive.
That doesn't stop right-wing nitwits imagining that there's a left conspira cy going on - the right-wing wants a chicken in every pot and a left-wing c onspiracy under every bed.
It doesn't have to. The El Nino/La Nina alternation shows up in the global temperature plot. We've know about that for quite a while because it shows up in other places.
The Multidecadal Atantic Oscillation
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is larger, but slower, and wasn't documented until 1994.
The models need data about subsurface ocean currents which doesn't yet exist.
The ARGO buoy program has been collecting it since 2000. There are now 3800 Argo buoys, but there is a lot of ocean to monitor.
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Both regional variations. Ocean currents remove heat from and deliver heat to different places as they move around.
The bug is in your comprehension. This isn't the first time I've posted the link to the Multidecadal Atlantic Oscillation wikipedia page.
Not exactly. Ignorant idiots get ignored independent of their age and skin colour.
You need to consider yourself a gullible sucker for climate change denial propaganda.
She merely quoted the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which was put together to provide expert advice at a level that politicians could follow.
The climate change denial machine got cranked up a year or two later, when the fossil carbon extraction industry woke up to the implications for their long term cash flow.
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You are ignorant and silly enough to be right on the middle of their target audience.
Communists wanted to control the whole economy. It worked badly enough in R ussia that they got thrown out. The Chinese communists got the message, and settled for merely regulating their economy - more rigidly than democratic socialists do in places like Scandinavia, but loosely enough to let it wor k tolerably well.
Phil lacks the political sophistication to appreciate that the political le ft isn't monolithic, and that most of it - the parts that alive and an well today - are perfectly happy with the free enterprise system.
They feel the same need to regulate it to prevent it degenerating into cart els and monopolies as the political right - it was the Americans who pionee red Anti-Trust legislation, following up Adam Smith's ?People of th e same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but th e conversation ends in a conspiracy against the publick, or in some contriv ance to raise prices?.
Phil's tiny brain has only got room for one idea, and he thinks that every body is crippled in the same way.
Consider (3), that CO2 is good for the planet, and God put us here to dig all that sequestered carbon out of the ground and put it back where it's most useful.
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ears, with massive amounts of coal, gas and oil under the ground waiting to be used to vasty improve all our lives.
eby will immediately render the planet uninhabitable to punish us.
You know - the real world that most of live in, rather than the fantasy wor ld cooked up by climate change denialists.
h hidden agendas. Prophets of Doom are not a new thing.
helming majority of climate scientists
In the sense that there's a lunatic conspiracy theory that postulates one.
them - even if only computer model predictions with no history of accuracy .
Phil doesn't like facts that take the argument to places Phil doesn't want it to go.
"Non sequitur" means "doesn't follow logically". Phil wants it to means "ta kes the argument to places where Phil looks silly".
icians to give advice in a form that politicians could understand,
Actually co-opted academics. They aren't career bureaucrats. The job is act ually popularising scientific data down to a level that politicians can und erstand, which is the kind of job some bureaucrats do, but the people that do it come from the non-bureaucratic staff at universities and research org anisations.
Brilliant series. Didn't have anything to say about climate change.
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eryone involved well knowing what was the needed outcome and what was not i n order to keep the funds and jobs flowing.
Cite?
Using Phil's idiosyncratic definition of non sequitur.
dicted disaster.
Phil's "jokes" do fall flat.
Phil is absurd. I have written comedy sketches and some of them got perform ed and got laughs. Not enough to persuade me that I could make money at it.
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" ?Studies have shown that plants acclimatize, or adjust, to rising carbon dioxide concentration and the fertilization effect diminishes over time.?
It can certainly be argued that digging up enough fossil carbon and burning it to avoid the next ice age was a good idea.
The fact that we weren't likely to switch back to a new ice age for another 20,000 years does suggest that we may need to leave at least some fossil c arbon in the ground for when we are actually going to need it.
** Cannot be for real, put up job from the coal industry. Lead author is a Chinese Communist - so we know he is obliged to find data that supports China's continued massive use of the stuff.
Right ?
Though I would get one in before Bill pours his drivel all over it.
Because they want people desperate so they will vote for more freebies.
The leftists promise more freebies, but do not deliver. The leftists are totally useless people and want to be superior, so everyone else has to dub down.
Like that movie 'The King And I", noones head may be higher than King. When he sits you all sit. It is a matter of power, and it is a game. I am learning the game.
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