About Electronic Cigarettes

healthy alternative to the real thing.

All smokers should be SHOT!

are a healthy alternative to the real thing.

E-cigs use is NOT smoking, they are vapor based, vapor is not smoke.

re a healthy alternative to the real thing.

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a healthy alternative to the real thing.

All people who think they have a right to tell me how to live my life should be shot, and will be when the Obama-induced economic collapse comes. Please post your address so that we may more easily accommodate your demise ;-)

My oldest son E-smokes. You can stand right beside him and smell not a thing. I think it just amounts to a nicotine dispenser. From what I hear, in spite of all the hoopla, nicotine apparently has some health _benefits_. ...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Wed, 15 May 2013 07:14:26 -0600 hamilton wrote in Message id: :

healthy alternative to the real thing.

I like the occasional cigar. How'd you like me to shove one up your wife's cooter the next time I f*ck her silly?

I was about to post *exactly* until I read the last part... yeah, they also say drinking wine, beer, etc has health benefits, but the detriments far outweigh the benefits.

Prescription drugs are regulated because they have a low benefit to detriment ratio unless you have a medical issue that requires their use. Do you feel people should be free to buy and use all these drugs without a prescription under a doctor's care? How about the non-prescription illegal drugs?

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a healthy alternative to the real thing.

I'd opine that you'd get an STD... my guess would be that Hamilton's significant-other is either male or a "two-sacker" (*)

(*) Refer to a recent episode of "The Borgia's" for the definition ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Wrong. It is well-established that (men) drinking 2-3 glasses daily of wine (particularly red) is good for your heart. The tricky part is that _excess_ drinking is bad for your liver... almost as bad as taking Tylenol regularly ;-)

I don't know specifically about the health benefits of nicotine, but apparently it may prevent Alzheimer's or Parkinson's...

Naaaah! It's to keep the price up and the kick-backs flowing. My doctor recently prescribed Famotidine, an anti-acid, claiming I needed "prescription strength". Turns out it was the same strength as over-the-counter, but 3X the price :-( I stopped taking it, it has the side effect of leg cramps)

No.

I'm really a Libertarian, so I have mixed feelings about "illegal" drugs. I really don't care what you do to _your_ body, just don't expect me to pay for it. Infractions against the public because of such ingestion/snorting/smoking should be handled with DUI, or similar, laws.

If we actually punished crimes, instead of putting people away in "resorts", we'd have much less of it. I've always liked the public square approach to minor crimes... in the stocks for a day, with you subject to "tomato-ing" is quite effective (public shaming does work). For more serious stuff, twenty lashes ;-)

And I'm fond of torture for the really serious crimes >:-} ...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.

re a healthy alternative to the real thing.

I think e-cigs will become popular enough that retailers can easily avoid m aking such claims and still be wildly successful. The markup on e-juice is something like 90%+. Everyone should open a vape shop. Very low barrier to entry.

I predict within 10 years, the cigarette as we know it today will have 50% (or maybe even less?) of its current market share. The times are a changin '.

In the US, fire safe cigarettes are supposedly made with carpet glue. Plus , you're burning paper, tobacco leaves and who knows what else. With vape- ing, it's vegetable oil, sometimes polypropylene glycol and cake or candy f lavorings. All of which are approved for human consumption, though admitte dly not vaporized first. I expect when the data comes in, the relative har m compared with traditional cigarettes will be MUCH, MUCH lower.

are a healthy alternative to the real thing.

making such claims and still be wildly successful.  The markup on e-j uice is something like 90%+.  Everyone should open a vape shop.   Very low barrier to entry.

% (or maybe even less?) of its current market share.  The times are a changin'.

difficult to to imagine it being higher

Lots of controversies around e-cigarettes here at the moment, apparently there is two types of liquid; one with and one without nicotine. Everyone wants to buy the type with nicotine but technically that is illegal because it has not been approved as a drug, still all the shops sell it openly

strange how that is illegal while real tobacco, countless type of chewing gum with nicotine etc. are legal

-Lasse

a healthy alternative to the real thing.

making such claims and still be wildly successful.  The markup on e-juice is something like 90%+.  Everyone should open a vape shop.  Very low barrier to entry.

(or maybe even less?) of its current market share.  The times are a changin'.

It's all about taxes. Right now the Republicans are having fun rubbing the Democrat's noses into the ground by suggesting a cut in beer taxes...

...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Yeah, I'm sure you have all sorts of great studies to show moderate drinking improves mortality and morbidity...

Tell that to a person I know who died because of the alcohol in a cold medicine. That is obviously an extreme case, but the point is the health benefits (small, but measureable) are by far outweighed by the detriments. No doctor will recommend a glass of wine as a tonic for health, not if he has actually read the studies.

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Rick

Is it the same as the Rodney Dangerfield joke?

She was so ugly that....She was known as a two bagger. That's when a girl is so ugly that you put a bag over your head in case the bag over her head breaks.

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_I_ don't have the studies, it's well-known. Here's one from Mayo...

What rock have you been hiding under? Red wine is definitely good for you, white wine and beer, not so much... though Mayo seems to think so... other studies say no.

Sounds like an urban legend. How much did they take? Unless your "person" drank the whole bottle at one sitting >:-}

No. I repeat, what rock have you been hiding under?

Believe whatever you like. ...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Yep! Apparently that joke dates back several thousand years >:-}

Of course, there's that other gag line, "All women are beautiful in the dark" ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Something like less than 5% of the settlement money from big tobacco went toward anything related health, which was the legal justification for the states' lawsuit to begin with. Its probably even less for the exorbitant excise taxes.

tes are a healthy alternative to the real thing.

oid making such claims and still be wildly successful. The markup on e-juic e is something like 90%+. Everyone should open a vape shop. Very low barrie r to entry.

50% (or maybe even less?) of its current market share. The times are a cha ngin'.

nope not about taxes, if it was it would have been "fixed" a long time ago

it is the nationa board of heath, the equivalent of your FDA I guess, that say it is a pharmaceutical drug, so to sell it would have to go through all the tests and approvals like other drugs

-Lasse

a healthy alternative to the real thing.

Ok, how about if you get a disease that is linked to tobacco, the insurance company does not have to pay for it.

As long as when you get a disease sitting on your fat ass typing on usenet your insurance does not pay. Sounds fair to me. I mean you libs like fair, right.