Very low noise SINGLE audio op-amp in DIL-8 ?

May 15, 2007 40 Replies

There are lots of really good op-amps suitable for or specifically designed for low noise audio use but the most popular configuration is the dual package (for many good reasons).



Having established that my client for the refurbished 'boutique' mic pre-amp doesn't mind if it's non-original provided there's an improvement, does anyone have any favourite candidates to replace the venerable NE5534 ? Bipolar or fet input, I don't mind, the noise source impedance at the op-amp non-inverting input is ~ 1200 ohms.



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It's retrofit into an existing socket.

The 5534's en is ~ 3.5 nV/sqrt Hz btw.

Graham

Why not just use half of a dual you know and love?

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Why not just keeping it? At 0.4pA/rtHz, the 5534's current noise will be unnoticable. And since 1200R is 4.5nV/rtHz, total noise will be 5.7 (for a 2dB NF). Getting down to a total 5nV/rtHz will require a less than 2nV/rtHz opamp, which you'll probably don't like (cost).

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A blast from the past ! I must look at it again and there's the op-37 too IIRC.

The best I've found so far is National's LME49710 (I didn't realise they did a single part) which boasts typical mid-band en of 2.5 nV/sqrt Hz and stupendous linearity and wonderful DC figures too. I expect In will be better as well.

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Ok, I have some samples on order, Farnell doesn't stock them yet. This part actually smacks of a deliberate intention to make a form-fit-function equivalent upgrade for 5534s ( and 5532s with the LME49720).

AD have better of course but it's a dual in SOIC. It's tempting to make a converter board and 'throw away' the unused half !

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1.15 nv/sqrt Hz op-amps ! -105dB THD @ 20kHz ! Yummmmm. And they're not actually insanely priced.

Graham

LT1028 is around 1nV/rtHz above 100Hz.

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What about AD797 or AD829?

Or LT1028

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Isn't the AD797 supposed to be the "ultimate" audio opamp from AD?

John Devereux

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LT1028 is a fabulous amp *if* your signal is very low impedance. We use them as current-shunt amps with ppm precision. The feedback resistor current is so high that we put another, cheap opamp in the loop just to drive the feedback, so we don't heat up the 1028 and spoil its beautiful offsets.

Current noise is high.

Maxim did a MAX1028 for a while, but I think LTC stopped them somehow.

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Probably by ordering some, which always causes Maxim to discontinue parts...

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Phil Hobbs

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ISTR reading that it tends to go quite unstable,( layout, gravity, leylines, Hubble const. 440Hz, etc,) but I havent checked it out on Snopes

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I've never used that AD797, but I suggested it once as a possible alternative to the LT1028, and the guys that tried it were very happy. The output stage of the LT1028 can be a bit cranky with some loads, and the AD797 is apparently rather nicer.

It is a relatively fast op amp, good for 20V/usec output slew rate and the data sheet does emphasise the need for good decoupling and careful layout, so there are people around who could find it unstable.

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I've used the Analog Devices AD829 as the second stage in a preamp and it worked well. Specced at 1.7 nV/rtHz. They also have the AD797 at

0.9 nV/rtHz if it's fast enough for you. You can sort their op amp list by noise if you haven't already found that magic button.

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If you can live with +/-5 V try MAX412

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LT1027 is very like an op-27

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The LT1028 can be tricky near unity gain. They really hate being smacked into the rails and don't like hitting slew rate limit. Other than these things they are actually not too bad to work with.

Since this is high end audio, you may want to look at parts like the LT6230-10. These give better highs.

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And below about 100KHz. The noise rises in the 100K-1M band.

Thanks, Phil, you made my day.

robert

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