So, you wanted a cheap notebook?

I don't think a new UMPC gets much cheaper than this:

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MOQ 100, Linux, and 128Mb ram, but still very useful, yes?

Cheers Don...

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Interesting price point - one guesses no fan needed ? Let's see: No HDD? - Still, USB drives are cheap. Microsoft probably does not like these :)

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For the more risk-averse, the EeePC now has close to 6 months of marketplace exposure under its belt, and while twice the price, is substantially faster and with more memory.

And yes, you actually can type on one normally after about a week of ownership.

I would expect we'll be seeing many more machines in this size category over the next year - now that the technology is there, a functional subnotebook that's cheap enough not to worry too much about just makes too much sense not to happen.

And yes, it works great with a USB-serial adapter for maintaining equipment.

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What I find amusing is that the UMPC Don linked to is sold, retail, with a brand name on it at EXACTLY THE SAME PRICE ($400) as the EEE

4G :)
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Only if by "amusing" you mean "not true."

I am looking at my Asus Eee right now and it doesn't have the same mousepad, keyboard layout, indicator lights, hinge, or screen.

Also, the Asus Eee has a 900 MHz (underclocked to 630 MHz by asus) Intel Celeron-M ULV 353, while the Wimbel has a 400 Mhz Ingenic XBurst.

It looks to me that the Wimbel is smaller (judging by the relative size of the 7" LCD).

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I did not say the Asus EEE is the UMPC to which Don linked. I said the

400MHz XBurst UMPC - same hardware - is sold, or at least offered, at $400. It was mentioned in one of the "also with the same tag" links on Engadget quite recently. It has a higher memory configuration but it's the same machine.
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larwe

... and here is the exact link:

Buy 100pcs at $150 from alibaba, or 1pc at $399 :)

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larwe

Notice the comments on the end where someone speculates that it's an ARM processor, and then another says its MIPS. At any rate, apparently not an x86. Which is not the end of the road, but it is somewhat nice that regular Debian binary packages will often run on the EeePC, though customizing them is sometimes an improvement.

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I have to apologize. I had a total brain fart while writing the above. The post I replied to clearly said "sold at the same price as the Eee" and somehow I halucinated "Sold as the EEE." D'oh! Sorry about that.

Note to self: next time, smoke the crack *after* posting...

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And for $399 you can often get a real laptop at Dell when they are on sale. The battery lifetime of those micro laptops doesn't convince me either because it still does not even come close to what Compaq engineers achieved in the early 90's. Over 5hrs on ordinary old-tech NiCd was not a problem back then. Real progress isn't always happening :-(

Anyhow, I believe the EeePC or whatever will only become a success if they show up at Walmart at a decent price, decent meaning substantially lower than the cheapest Dell laptop. Else people will just keep buying Dell laptops.

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You talk about it like it's something that might happen - well, it already has happened.

The Eee does not compete with budget laptops, it is in the ultraportable niche. Its only real overlap with mainstream laptops is with ultrasmall offerings like the MacBook Air, ThinkPad X series, Sony ultra-small Vaio, etc. Those machines are typically in the >$1500 price bracket. Certainly you will not find one for under 2x the Eee's price.

Simply the large number of essentially identical competing products coming on the market (keep reading engadget.com and you'll see a new one announced every few weeks) indicates that this niche is already something of a success.

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Well, not out here. The mobile computing platforms I see are 90%+ Dell, then some Sony, Toshiba, IBM/Lenovo or the occasional ruggedized laptop such as my Durabook (but those are very rare).

That high price is why they aren't more popular. Hopefully the Eee will make a dent here but it would have to be available at local stores. And the popular apps must run on it. For some people that would be stuff like TurboTax, for me it's CAD.

I never had a doubt that ultra-portable has a market. Remember the Contura Aero? It was a success but could have been a much bigger one if marketed right. To me (and a lot of others) one key is battery runtime. The usual 2-4hrs simply don't cut it. If they can't get there anymore (the engineers in the 980's could ...) then the only alternative is to use standard rechargeables and that would be AA.

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On a 7" screen you want to run CAD?

That's not the kind of application this machine is intended for.

Think of it as an ultraportable _terminal_ that happens to be able to browse the web in a pinch, edit and compile code, read newsgroups, etc.

In actuality, I use mine as my main machine outside of work hours. But I do have a desktop available at home, I just rarely bother to turn it on.

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Sure, done that all the time, starting in 1989. Old Wang laptop, 6" or so screen, sans backlight, IBM-XT resolution, whatever that was. While riding trains, airplanes or while sitting in a hotel room I designed rather large circuit boards for ultrasound machines on it. The trick is to become very proficient with pan and zoom. Oh, and that thing did not have a pointing device. Never needed one but the arrow keys were quite worn when I retired it for a Compaq Contura.

But it's needed for that. After the Compaq Aero was discontinued there came a huge void.

Well, us HW guys need to run our CAD :-)

I used to do that but began using a desktop again. Much more oomph.

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There are subnotebooks with better resolution and more computing horsepower on the market, they just cost $2k and up.

EeePC costs $399. It's not intended to do the job of the more expensive ultraportables. But it's great for people like me who want a computer they can carry and can afford to carry, but don't have the "I must have a full engineering workstation on my knee" justification to buy one of those pricey toys from Dynamism.

Nor is it intended to do the job of a dirt-cheap 6lb notebook. I'm actually thinking of buying one of those for the times I want a bigger screen and an optical drive. But most of the time, what I want is something tiny enough that I'll have it with me when I unexpectedly need it.

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As long as they slurp up a battery in under 5hrs those ain't worth $2k+ for me.

However, in the early 90's we had exactly that. The Compaq Contura Aero was ultraportable, could do the usual EE software back then, had an incredible battery runtime and was lower in cost than a full laptop. But

3-1/2" disks were the only storage media and it needed a separate drive for that, people like me would trust hard drive for good reason (lost three), and that's IMHO what kept it from becoming a huge success.

It only would have to run simple CAD such as schematic entry, simple mechanical, LTSpice or suites such as IAR or Keil. And nobody would expect it to be a rocket there, more like a Leatherman tool.

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A bit OT, but this is funny

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Can't watch it. What are you guys using for viewing that is safe (no malware etc.)? Tried VLC but that won't work with Youtube. Got to get some speakers for this office PC, too.

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I download first with clive:

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Then VLC or mplayer...

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