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**I gave up my fax machine (and dedicated fax line) when I realised that 90% of my incoming faxes were junk faxes. Buggered if I will pay to recieve junk mail (ink and paper). A fax machine is really not all that important in business today.

Trevor Wilson

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"Rudolf"

** That is clearly illegal.

The ACMA can remove any fax numbers from the register.

...... Phil

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Phil Allison

So the 'do not call register' is even more useless than before. Great.

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John Tserkezis

A couple of suggestions -

  1. Set your fax to outgoing only if that is an option for you.
  2. Find out the numbers of the offending fax sender(s). Send them a message asking them to cease sending you faxes.
  3. If (2 above) doesn't work send them a 50 page fax of black paper. If they have a bothway fax setup it sends them the message loud and clear (well lots of black anyway) :P

Cheers, Alan

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Alan Rutlidge

Usually if you have a fax machine within a corporate environment, this isn't an option.

You're a toothless tiger with no teeth. They have every legal right to send you faxes, and you have no legal backing to stop them.

Not going to work. It's a fax modem that's designed to send only. If it's configured to go both ways, the most you can do it occupy a bit of hard drive space, and umpteen pages isn't going to help, a few keystrokes on any half decent fax gate software will ensure you don't get any more than a certain amount before pulling the plug (as so not to hold up the line).

Legal options will do nothing. You need hired goons to give them a stern talking to.

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John Tserkezis

Correct in some cases. I've worked in the corporate sector and some of the machines were send only, receive only or bothway (normal operation). For some people in smaller businesses, setting the machine to send only mode isn't rocket science.

You'd be surprised how a simple polite request can get results. Not guaranteed to, but if you don't ask you you'll never know. Also responding appropriately to a polite request is more likely to gain the company kudoes rather than become the source of complaint. The latter unlikely to get your business and a lot on negative publicity.

Dell used to send me weekly fax specials. I wasn't interested so I faxed their fax back to 1800818341 and they stopped sending them. :-)

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offer a similar "stop sending us faxes" service with an automated dial up number to call.

Sounds like you need to strike up an ongoing relationship with Philty Allison. He's into a bit of biffo and sending "the Marist old boys" around to sort things out - LOL.

If you happen to have your fax machine within arms reach, check your CLD everytime a fax call comes through. If it reads "Private" or "Unavailable" just press the STOP button. Works for me. :-)

Cheers, Alan

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Alan Rutlidge

I've worked in both large and small scale corporates. The larger scales can go both ways depending (and there are a decent number of fax machines around the building - and they vary depending on use.

On small scale however, the only option was both ways. It is a company fax machine after all.

I have a major problem with that, it's no fun.

I REALLY don't think that a whine from a scammer/spammer etc is going to earn anything they say credibility. And when you read that the telemarketers overseas are screaming for more protection against verbal abuse from the suckers^H^H^Hcustomers they're calling, the only good thing I can think of is that the laws that don't protect us, also don't protect them. Looks like "we" have thicker skins than them. We win.

Same thing here. We wondered why they started in the first place after we made it abundantly clear we weren't happy with the first POS they sent us. (it was the bosses idea, he thought it was a good deal, and by-passed the three or four computer-heads in the office that knew anything). I think the thing that frustrated me more, was not that we were getting the junk faxes, but that someone would faithfully move the damn things into the fax "in" tray instead of screw them up and throw them out.

I can't even tell if that's what he's trying to say. He really doesn't make sense most of the time. In fact, in reiterating the 'do not call register' rules, he appears to be on THEIR bloody side.

When we can't send the 'boys around (those pesky laws stop us from doing that anwyay), we have GREAT fun in putting the overseas telescammers on speakerphone, and having fun with them. We had one get so frustrated, he started abusing us in his native language. So we did the only thing we could

- we laughed harder. After I abruptly hung up one after giving her some lip, she called me back (twice!) and said I couldn't talk to her like that. I assumed she meant I wasn't coarse enough, so I gave her even more lip. Seriously, if we're going to waste time talking to them, we may as well 'get our monies worth'. This really is a victimless sport, after all, the laws that don't protect us, also don't protect them.

A couple of points here.

The CLD string is checkable via software, so you could "filter" out faxes at this point if it's a fax modem. Though I really don't think it's useful whitelisting in a corporate environment, because you don't know where the next fax is coming from. Though it's still useful to partially filter obvious things like missing CLDs, or "corrupt" entries that don't appear to be usable numbers.

The other point is that within Australia, they made it law (long time ago, may have changed) for senders to provide a valid origin number within the CLD field. For missing entries, or obviously grunged entries, just chuck them out

- and it's quite safe and reliable to do so.

All the valid faxes, and all the more "reputable" source junk faxes all had valid CLDs. Anything that didn't, was real junk. In my experience, there was very little "reputable" junk.

However, I think the faxmarketers, and especially the scammers, are moving away from faxes anyway. Email is much cheaper and covers a wider audience.

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Reply to
John Tserkezis

Depends on your business. I am getting most of my warranty work requests by fax.

Rudolf

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Rudolf

I mean that I have it listed for business, not in registry.

Sorry for the confusion.

Telemarketers call (voice call) and have a nice chat with fax machine.

Rudolf

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Rudolf

I just installed an old PC funning free fax software that allowed me to blacklist certain numbers. then it was just like delete the spam that slips through.

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Terryc

Ah, and quite funny it is too. :-) Strange how my fax machine can't translate the Indian or Pakistani accent either. :P

Cheers, Alan

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Alan Rutlidge

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