Vacuum Cleaner Bearings Question with Pics

Hi,

I posted before about the bearings in my vacuum. I now have pics also. I almost bought a new vacuum, but thought I would give the repair one more try.

To recap, the ball bearings have actually come out of my vacuum motor shaft. I am trying to figure out where they are supposed to go. Also trying to figure out if I need to remove some sort of "race and bearings" assembly on the shaft and replace the race and bearinigs as a pre-assembled unit ( and where to buy it).

The ball bearings are silver and are smaller than beebees.

I have 2 pics, below. Shaft, and motor.

The round pill box shaped thing on the left of the shaft, next to the fan, works great, spins freely, and is not the problem.

The lost bearings, I presume, are supposed to go on the right side of the shaft somewhere. Maybe near the loose washer.

Anyone who can help, please feel free to chime in !

Thanks

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Vacillator
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Sorry. Here is the shaft pic.

Shaft.

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Vacillator

Hi,

I posted before about the bearings in my vacuum. I now have pics also. I almost bought a new vacuum, but thought I would give the repair another look.

To recap, the ball bearings have actually come out of my vacuum motor shaft. I am trying to figure out where they are supposed to go. Also trying to figure out if I need to remove some sort of "race and bearings" assembly on the shaft and replace the race and bearings as a pre-assembled unit ( and where to buy it).

The ball bearings are silver and are smaller than beebees.

I have 2 pics, below. Shaft, and motor.

The round pill box shaped thing on the left of the shaft, next to the fan, works great, spins freely, and is not the problem.

The lost bearings, I presume, are supposed to go on the right side of the shaft somewhere. Maybe near the loose washer.

Anyone who can help, please feel free to chime in ! I can take additional photos, if it would help.

Thanks

shaft.............

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motor.............

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Reply to
Vacillator

Hi,

I posted before about the bearings in my vacuum. I now have pics also. I almost bought a new vacuum, but thought I would give the repair another look.

To recap, the ball bearings have actually come out of my vacuum motor shaft. I am trying to figure out where they are supposed to go. Also trying to figure out if I need to remove some sort of "race and bearings" assembly on the shaft and replace the race and bearings as a pre-assembled unit ( and where to buy it).

The ball bearings are silver and are smaller than beebees.

I have 2 pics, below. Shaft, and motor.

The round pill box shaped thing on the left of the shaft, next to the fan, works great, spins freely, and is not the problem.

The lost bearings, I presume, are supposed to go on the right side of the shaft somewhere. Maybe near the loose washer.

Anyone who can help, please feel free to chime in ! I can take additional photos, if it would help.

Thanks

shaft.............

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motor.............

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Vacillator

The "pill box" item on the left end of the armature shaft (next o he fan blade) is a ball-bearing assembly (or simply ball bearing, to many folks). The ball bearing on the right end has failed, not just had the balls fall out. It's very likely that the 2 ball bearing assemblies are the same size and type.

If you look very closely at the ball bearing, there is likely a number on it to use for choosing a replacement part. The ball bearing is likely to be a double-shielded type (not sealed), and permanently lubricated with a grease.

The part on the right end of the armature shaft that has a half-round groove in it is the remaining inner race of the failed ball bearing. Generally, a bearing puller and/or a small press is used to remove and replace ball bearings in small motors. A vacuum cleaner shop may be able to replace both bearings for you. A bearing supplier (yellow pages) would be able to measure the old ball bearing (if the number isn't legible), and get you replacement bearings.

An improvised method of removing bearing races from shafts (particularly since a bearing puller can't grip it) is to cut them with an abrasive disk (such as Dremel) to nearly the full thickness, then tap a hammer on a chisel placed in the cut.

If there is no other damage from the bearing failure, paying for the cost of having 2 new bearings replaced should be worthwhile.

Repairing equipment can be gratifying. You're sorta lucky/fortunate that this motor has replaceable bearings.

-- Cheers, WB .............

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Wild_Bill

Shroud off (woven glass mat etc) any plastic etc and blast with a hot air gun followed by "hub" puller. If no shift try again , following the heating with shrouded off blast of freezer spray on the shaft only then puller. Then puller up to its limit of pull. Then butchery

-- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on

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N_Cook

what make and model? The fact that the motor's bearings died before you had even one brush replacement sounds like it is an electrolux. If that's the case, you should just junk it unless you have a special attachment to french garbage.

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AZ Nomad

"AZ Nomad"

** Might be Swedish - I think.

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Phil Allison

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Take the motor to a repair shop

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hrhofmann

It looks like a ball bearing has self-destructed. There is no way to fix a destroyed bearing. It must be replaced.

If this is the ball bearing on the left end of the shaft you're talking about, this may be identical to the one that exploded on the right end of the shaft.

The grooved ring just to the right of the washer looks like the inner race of (what used to be) a ball bearing.

Look in the housing where the right end of the shaft went through. There should be the outer race (look at the bearing on the left end of the shaft to see what the outer race looks like). The missing (exploded) bearing on the right may be identical to the good one on the left.

Tap out the outer race of the destroyed bearing from the housing. There is a part number printed on this. (Look on the left bearing; if the bearings are the same size, you can use this number to order the new bearings.)

Take the shaft and the housing (the one that the right end bearing fit into) to a bearing distributor and see if they can get you a replacement. Should cost less than 10 bucks. (Look in the yellow pages for bearing distributors.)

You want *sealed* type bearings. These have a neoprene-like grease seal on both sides of the bearing that protects the balls from dust and dirt which destroys bearings.

I'd replace the one on the left end too. That way your vacuum will last for years.

Measure the exact location each bearing is on the shaft (measure from the end of the shaft to the bearing). This way you will be sure of their exact location when installing the new bearings. (Note that there may be a "step" in the shaft where the bearing is located against. This means that measurement of the bearing's location isn't required; when you install the new bearing you just tap it on until it reaches this step and cannot go any further. "Automatic" location.

Pull off the old bearing or remains of it any way you can (hammer, bearing puller, vice grips). You're going to throw these away, so don't worry about being gentle with them. Just don't mess up the shaft.

Tap the new bearings on using a punch, drift, chisel, or a screwdriver and a hammer. Tap *only* on the inner race (the part that slides onto the shaft. When installing the bearings do *not* hammer on or force the outer race in any way. This could damage the bearing.

Good luck.

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Mike Cook

There are industrial suppliers who can sell you bearings. You would require to know the exact size, metal type, and temperature characteristics ratings to select the proper match.

You'd be best off to take the motor in to a motor re-builder and have a full re-build done. This would make for a much more reliable outcome.

The solution I would have used was to call the vacuum company and order a new motor. Sometimes these motors have life time warranties on them depending on the type of vacuum cleaner.

I had a vacuum cleaner that after 10 years it stopped working. I sent it to the company to have it serviced. They changed the motor and power switch. I had to only pay the labor and the shipping. They said the parts failure was due to a production fault.

Jerry G.

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Jerry G.

Hi,

Just an update on the Eureka vacuum situation. I took the disassembled motor down to my local vacuum repair place, hoping to get a new bearing or 2 installed, but the guy said a used motor would be cheaper and better. I went with the used motor, especially since the old one was sparking quite a bit, anyway. The used motor was only $15. Not bad. Installed used motor today. Works great. I kept my original motor for spare parts, if needed.

Thanks for all the good advice along the way.

Vacillator

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Vacillator

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