I guess most people don't realize exactly how high one's insurance rates would rise if say you're speeding and total out someone's 40k car and/or cause a personal injury. We're not talking an extra $12/month here.
They sure seem to drive like they don't around here that is...
I doubt it's aimed directly at you. Rather I think he has a problem with people who can't tolerate his holier-than-thou attitude and he only seems to think in terms of subjectivity.
Holy crap you're right! Bring out the party hats and balloons!
The more I think about it, the more I realize just how true it really is! That is a perfect description of why Trump tweets!
-- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998
Tim Williams wrote on 9/21/2017 4:44 AM:
Absolutely not correct. If a ruling is made on an issue regarding the nature of the law or enforcement it has a lasting effect called "precedence". It can be overturned on appeal and does not impact any wider jurisdictions directly, but can be cited in other jurisdictions as supporting evidence.
-- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998
Your opinion means pretty much diddly squat. Rear end collisions can be very serious causing cervical injuries that paralyze or handicap people for the rest of their lives. Did you work for Ford when they designed the Pinto?
-- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998
Yeah, my kid got caught speeding a couple times just after he got his license. (We generally don't let our kids get their full license until they are about 18.) Our insurance rates went up to $5000/year, from about $2500. He finally was able to get his own insurance, and he is banned from driving any of our cars, he can only drive his own. Now, we can get our rates back down to $2500. This involved ZERO accidents.
Jon
Lefties are all too dumb to see what's right in front of them. Their religion won't let them.
I have to wonder whether short yellow times are really deliberate for revenue raising, rather than just incompetence. After all, anyone can be caught by a short yellow, including the regulator themselves, their family members, their friends, and I really don't see the motive, given that the person setting the time doesn't themselves receive any extra cash.
When choosing between conspiracy and incompetence, go for incompetence every time.
Sylvia.
Why am I not surprised your entire response is void of any provable facts?
Do you have any evidence to support that fines have much effect on violations?
I think there are studies that show that criminals do not think they will be caught and the harshness of the penalties has very little effect on their behaviour.
Dan
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And some of us live where some of the bridges are one lane and some of the streets are two lane. One lane for parking and one lane for traffic. When you encounter a car coming toward you, one of you have to pull over in the parking lane and let the other car pass.
The two covered bridges in this county are one lane.
Dan
Dan
Lefties wouldn't recognize a provable fact if it hit them across the nose with a 2x4. It's their religion.
Whether fines have much effect on violations wasn't the point of my comment. I was primarily responding to krw who seemed to imply that the price of Big Macs and price of a fine were equivalent.
The purpose of a fine is to deter. The purpose of a Big Mac's price is to cover the restaurant's cost and profit margin. Not the same thing.
What does that have to do with anything? Are you saying residential streets are not 25 or 30 MPH and they are 6 lanes?
I'm surprised "reasonable and prudent" could ever work, sounds unconstitutionally vague and impossible to enforce.
-- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998
Does anyone know if krw is an actual person, or some type of chat bot? The level of intelligence in his/its responses is sometimes just not that of a human.
He is his own brand of "special" person. There are a few conservatives here you can have a conversation with. I've actually learned a few things from them and been shown some of the applesauce posited by the left. But krw and the other seeming escapees from the mental ward can't seem to even hold a civil conversation. When they are confronted with facts they can't twist, they resort to infantile denigration of the other person.
-- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998
My point is that the nominal reason for fines is to deter. But what if they do not deter? Maybe they are more of a revenue raiser than a deterrent. Like a Big Mac they help cover the cost of having a police force.
Dan
They are certainly a revenue generator, yes. Few accidents are caused by speed, but somewhere around half of police dept. fines are from speeders; at least that's what I read somewhere. And speed limits are largely unnecessary according to research.
But there are other places where fines should be larger, or based on ability to pay, like texting, DUI, exhibition, reckless driving, etc.
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