2-terminal negative resistance circuits

Bingo (at least for the "N" type)!

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Robert Baer
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Would that be an example of negative resistance?

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Robert Baer

In fact, i have seen a 2-terminal hockey-puck ?regulator? made that way. Excellent high power beastie.

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Robert Baer

No "Z" types?

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Robert Baer

Half-baked opinions are not too tasty....

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Robert Baer

The I/V plot looks like a "Z". For a real example, take any greater-than 7V zener or any silicon PNP or NPN low signal transistor EB junction; run curve from zero to 10mA and you are bound to see the resulting trash. Some are very noisy.

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Robert Baer

Yes, it is not linear, but nowhere near negative resistance. Do a Spice and you will see how lame it is in action.

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Robert Baer

It's easy to avoid having silly ideas: never have ideas.

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John Larkin

Zeners will oscillate in an RC circuit at low current. It is very noisy.

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John Larkin

Sorry, do not see it. How about a SPICE to show it?

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Robert Baer

But if the sun has a BIG corona fart, the whole electrical system in the world goes POP and you will need those pencils (and paper). Real time solid-state graphics..

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Robert Baer

'Envious and resentful' pretty much covers it.

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Cursitor Doom

Yessir, Tony Williams and I covered that here in depth, about 25 years ago, lots of 500MHZ scope measurements and drawings. Many physics papers from early 60s, but w/o high-speed scopes. Unfortunately the files are somehow missing from my computer.

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Winfield Hill

That sums up "leftism" pretty well.

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krw

On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Jul 2019 13:07:24 -0800) it happened Robert Baer wrote in :

Thank you for pointing out my error. I did try it in Ltspice, and indeed you are 100% right. Tried to fix it by changing some component values and even using a zener, but no success. Your incredible wizdom rules again. My hat off! Wonder if I had too much sun or too little 'tronics last week, could well be, big festivities going on here all day.

Could also be some basic units changed over time due to dark matter and dark force.

I also had the idea to do it with a PIC and one transistor, I am sure that will work, but slow. ADC -> software -> DAC -> tranny to short the supply. :-)

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Jan Panteltje

Also easy with two BJTs ...

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piglet

More fun stuff ...

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piglet

On a sunny day (Sat, 6 Jul 2019 15:39:16 +0100) it happened piglet wrote in :

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OK, as the voltage rises Q2 starts conducting and switches the load formed by Q1 off. ?

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Jan Panteltje

Excellent!

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Robert Baer

Very well done write-up.

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Robert Baer

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