UK source for this magnetic switch?

Feb 07, 2009 37 Replies

Can anyone point me towards a UK source (phone or online) for an inexpensive cylindrical, enclosed reed switch, N/C, for use in a burglar alarm circuit please.



I'm still googling but so far without success and want to place an order for delivery Monday.


Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Aren't there any electronic-parts distributors in the UK that consumers can purchase from?

"electronic-parts distributor" in the UK implies a trade only source with limited interest in selling to retail customers. Those that do, typically charge exorbitant delivery, minimun order and service charges

- leaving the only real alternative to be a toy shop called Maplin. Or eBay.

Adrian C

William Sommerwerck wrote:

Plenty, but he's looking for the wrong thing.

There is no such thing as a NC reed switch. The induced magnetism in the reeds *always* attracts them together when you bring the magnet up, and never repels them so all two terminal bare reed switches are NO. It is possible to put an additional non-magnetic reed in the capsule, so that one of the magnetic reeds is in contact with it until an external magnetic field is applied, but as the reeds have to be brought out through the pinch of the glass capsule to support them, this provides a SPDT switch, not a NC one although it can be used as such.

If he googles 'SPDT reed switch' (without the quotes), both Rapid and Maplin stock them. but for alarm use, I'm fairly sure he wants a complete reed sensor and magnet pair for a NC loop, NOT a bare reed capsule.

If he's looking for a switch/magnet pair he can mount in the edge of a door and its frame in drilled holes, googling 'recessed reed switch' will find plenty, all NC in the presence of their magnet (i.e. with the door closed). Again Maplin have some.

If he wants a true NC action, he's either going to have to stick a bare SPDT reed in a cylindrical housing e.g a plastic tube from a biro with a dab of hot glue or mess around with a biasing magnet to cancel out the field of the actuating magnet as it approaches. Enclosed SPDT reed switches, although nearly as rare as hens teeth, are available but apparently not in a cylindrical recessed format.

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No Radio Shack there? Try an alarm company then... They were commonly used in the big dish satellite systems on the positioning motor, but since big dishes are uncommon now, that's not a good source, but some satellite dish companies may have a few sitting on the shelf.

Who could forget CPC/Farnell? Deal with them once and they'll keep your letter box well fed for the rest of your life!

Excellent stock range though, miles bigger than Maplin.

Chris

** It's a better than even money bet Terry wants the switch to be closed with a magnet nearby.

Which IS the NORMAL situation in an alarm installation.

..... Phil

Yeah, but they are trade.

You can deal as an individual but on small quantities you pay postage, don't get free technical support etc.. Basically 2nd class treatment and they make you feel that. Attempts at getting trade registration for my credit worthy limited company failed at Farnell without an explanation why :-(

It takes a bit longer, but I find eBay works for me. If it's urgent, then Maplin, Cricklewood Electronics or me turning up at an RS trade counter with my VAT registration certificate (yes really).

BTW Radio Shack pulled out years ago. Now that was a toy shop...

Adrian C

You don't even need an electronics distributor - electrical wholesalers keep this sort of thing.

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and will sell any value item with no surcharge in their branches. I've never used them for mail order.

Most electronics distributors will have a minimum order - or high P&P for a small value item.

Maplin (UK sort of RS) *may* have this sort of thing in some shops.

Or of course Ebay.

*Taxation WITH representation ain't much fun, either. Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound.

You snipped the bit where I gave a usable search term and suggestion for a retail supplier for exactly that! Here, I've put it back:

Thanks for not swearing ;-)

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I've never had a problem with CPC that wasn't resolved with an e-mail or two. According to

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it's 'Small Order Handling Charges', not postage, that they levy on orders smaller than £45 ex VAT. I guess this amounts to the same, but I don't think I've ever needed to trouble them with less than 45 quids' worth.

Chris

Find one where you can walk in off the street during business hours if you demonstrate posession of atleast half a clue when you walk in and pay cash they'll treat you ok.

The only one in the UK which has trade counters in several cities is RS Components - and they won't serve someone walking in off the street. And rightly so - a genuine client shouldn't have to wait while an amateur asks for advice, etc.

Maplin is the place for that sort of thing.

*I can see your point, but I still think you\'re full of shit. Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Actally B&Q, Focus, Wikkes, Aldi, Morrisons, Even Asda have or have had similar devices on their shelves !

Best Regards: Baron.

But not a N/C one. You'll need to obtain the correct reed switch elsewhere and fit it to the housing. Or just use a transistor to invert the output as I suggested earlier.

*When cheese gets it\'s picture taken, what does it say? Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound.

All the ones I referred to were standard reeds with an actuating magnet in a separate housing. Ak for burglar alarm systems. I've never seen a normally closed one used for those, although I have seen change over, SPCO, reeds used in electronic equipment.

Best Regards: Baron.

CPC have counters and served me, but i have registered an account on their web site . It was No problem and the parts were waiting for pick up.

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I buy from CPC weekly, my orders generally are for more than the minumum carriage free amount, £45 IIRC, but I think it`s only a few pounds for standard delivery.

As far as CPC being trade only. that`s a laugh, it was a big bone of contention a few years ago when they started putting their weekly special offer leaflets in punter magazines and opened a 'trade counter' that is open to all. I`ve dealt with CPC since the early 80`s, they are a good company, I`ve had very few problems, and complains are dealt with asap.

Farnell also will hapily sell to the public via their website - The Farnell organisation own CPC btw, I`ve also had good dealings with Rapid Online.

Ron

Happily, that's a laugh.. :-(

The word is grudgingly. Both CPC and Farnell technical support is free for account holders, and there is no minimum order for trade customers. Other companies even have free post for trade customers on any order size. Because on things like internet sales they have to agree to "distance selling regulations" and similar, they end up losing money dealing with consumers. Maplin is the only UK national choice for hobbyists and small time repairers like me.

Never mind, if it works for you. Good :-)

eBay and purchasing outside the UK works for me and yes; I know what a scam fest eBay can sometimes be, but not in this case.

For example I recently had to replace a shot schottky SMD diode in a HP printer SMPS. Per part, 20p each from Farnell. Minimun order charge £20. Post and packing £4.25.

From an eBay seller in the states, £8 including postage for 500 diodes. They were delivered within the week.

If it's urgent I jump in the car and find something in a shop closer. Or risk a dodgy substitute for the part, which I really shouldn't do if it's critical ....

Adrian C

I understood CPC have only the one trade counter - unlike RS Components who have some 15 in various parts of the country.

*Atheism is a non-prophet organization. Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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