Looking for very old switch

Looks like someone else was looking for this several years ago. The thread holds the name of a company that had the exact one back then. Good luck.

On Friday, September 12, 2014 11:45:05 AM UTC-4, snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wro te:

post this. At our Summer camp in Upstate NY we have an old Singer "Electrom ode" electric heater. It was made in Auburn NY and purchased and installed by my father in law about 50 years ago. Singer Electric is long gone. This is a small unit about 14 X 18 inches, runs on a 240 volt 20 amp circuit and is mounted in the wall. The model number is WA-40 and the Cat. # is 4990-W . The heater uses a three button push button switch which was made by GE, a nd the ratchet mechanism in the switch is flaky. A picture of a similar swi tch which appears to be mechanically identical with a slightly different mo del number is here:

st been operating too long dry and is worn out. It just gets stuck sometime s. If it were possible I would try to disassemble the switch, but even if I could fix it, the way it was stamped together it would be impossible to re assemble.

ater would mean major surgery to the wall so I would really like to replac e the switch if I can find one. The original part number as stamped on the switch is ASP3125-35. The EBAY part is a ASP3125-346. The terminals are als o marked differently. This switch is integrated with a thermostat which doe sn't turn on the fan until the heat comes up. I really don't want to try to reinvent this thing if I don't have to.

pecially made just for Singer. But they don't really seem to know either. W hether the EBAY one will work is unknown. At the very least L1 and L2 are i n different places, so I don't have a lot of hope in their compatibility.

ome up empty. I'm holding my breath now, Does anyone have one of these in a drawer somewhere or a source for one of these switches? Thanks, Lenny

Do you have the thread John? Lenny

On Friday, September 12, 2014 4:37:27 PM UTC-4, snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrot e:

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o post this. At our Summer camp in Upstate NY we have an old Singer "Electr omode" electric heater. It was made in Auburn NY and purchased and installe d by my father in law about 50 years ago. Singer Electric is long gone. Thi s is a small unit about 14 X 18 inches, runs on a 240 volt 20 amp circuit a nd is mounted in the wall. The model number is WA-40 and the Cat. # is 4990

-W. The heater uses a three button push button switch which was made by GE, and the ratchet mechanism in the switch is flaky. A picture of a similar s witch which appears to be mechanically identical with a slightly different model number is here:

just been operating too long dry and is worn out. It just gets stuck someti mes. If it were possible I would try to disassemble the switch, but even if I could fix it, the way it was stamped together it would be impossible to reassemble.

heater would mean major surgery to the wall so I would really like to repl ace the switch if I can find one. The original part number as stamped on th e switch is ASP3125-35. The EBAY part is a ASP3125-346. The terminals are a lso marked differently. This switch is integrated with a thermostat which d oesn't turn on the fan until the heat comes up. I really don't want to try to reinvent this thing if I don't have to.

specially made just for Singer. But they don't really seem to know either. Whether the EBAY one will work is unknown. At the very least L1 and L2 are in different places, so I don't have a lot of hope in their compatibility.

come up empty. I'm holding my breath now, Does anyone have one of these in a drawer somewhere or a source for one of these switches? Thanks, Lenny

John idiot on two counts: didn't copy thread to group, and it's a different switch. I googled your original part number, and this thread came up. Ho w it got this thread from your part number I have no idea. It's out of a S inger, but a different model. However, try the contact anyway. Sounds lik e an old mom and pop shop that may have lots of obscure stuff:

On Friday, September 12, 2014 11:45:05 AM UTC-4, snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wro te:

post this. At our Summer camp in Upstate NY we have an old Singer "Electrom ode" electric heater. It was made in Auburn NY and purchased and installed by my father in law about 50 years ago. Singer Electric is long gone. This is a small unit about 14 X 18 inches, runs on a 240 volt 20 amp circuit and is mounted in the wall. The model number is WA-40 and the Cat. # is 4990-W . The heater uses a three button push button switch which was made by GE, a nd the ratchet mechanism in the switch is flaky. A picture of a similar swi tch which appears to be mechanically identical with a slightly different mo del number is here:

st been operating too long dry and is worn out. It just gets stuck sometime s. If it were possible I would try to disassemble the switch, but even if I could fix it, the way it was stamped together it would be impossible to re assemble.

ater would mean major surgery to the wall so I would really like to replac e the switch if I can find one. The original part number as stamped on the switch is ASP3125-35. The EBAY part is a ASP3125-346. The terminals are als o marked differently. This switch is integrated with a thermostat which doe sn't turn on the fan until the heat comes up. I really don't want to try to reinvent this thing if I don't have to.

pecially made just for Singer. But they don't really seem to know either. W hether the EBAY one will work is unknown. At the very least L1 and L2 are i n different places, so I don't have a lot of hope in their compatibility.

ome up empty. I'm holding my breath now, Does anyone have one of these in a drawer somewhere or a source for one of these switches? Thanks, Lenny

Seems like "obscure" is my kind of place. I'll check that out next week. Th anks John. Lenny

This 2005 message from alt.home.repair

says the progression was Singer -> Arco Aire -> Inter City Products (ICP) -> Carrier.

The Electromode brand seems to be owned by Dimplex since 1991:

So... maybe Carrier or Dimplex could help.

There is a picture of a Singer WA-15 here

and it looks like it has a couple of bimetal thermostats mounted to fins of the heating element. If yours is like that, then the switch is probably simple - if the buttons are "off-fan-heat", then it's probably one output for the fan motor and another for the heater.

I bet ASP3125 is the switch "model", and the -35 is a specific set of button colors, switching action, etc. There are other versions of that switch floating around; ASP3125-77 has a NSN of 5930-01-021-1119. The closest I found to your number are ASP-3125-34 (off, cool, heat) and ASP-3125-39 (off-on or off-on-vent) in the parts list for a "Nelsonaire" /AAF air conditioner:

Matt Roberds

On Friday, September 12, 2014 11:45:05 AM UTC-4, snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wro te:

post this. At our Summer camp in Upstate NY we have an old Singer "Electrom ode" electric heater. It was made in Auburn NY and purchased and installed by my father in law about 50 years ago. Singer Electric is long gone. This is a small unit about 14 X 18 inches, runs on a 240 volt 20 amp circuit and is mounted in the wall. The model number is WA-40 and the Cat. # is 4990-W . The heater uses a three button push button switch which was made by GE, a nd the ratchet mechanism in the switch is flaky. A picture of a similar swi tch which appears to be mechanically identical with a slightly different mo del number is here:

st been operating too long dry and is worn out. It just gets stuck sometime s. If it were possible I would try to disassemble the switch, but even if I could fix it, the way it was stamped together it would be impossible to re assemble.

ater would mean major surgery to the wall so I would really like to replac e the switch if I can find one. The original part number as stamped on the switch is ASP3125-35. The EBAY part is a ASP3125-346. The terminals are als o marked differently. This switch is integrated with a thermostat which doe sn't turn on the fan until the heat comes up. I really don't want to try to reinvent this thing if I don't have to.

pecially made just for Singer. But they don't really seem to know either. W hether the EBAY one will work is unknown. At the very least L1 and L2 are i n different places, so I don't have a lot of hope in their compatibility.

ome up empty. I'm holding my breath now, Does anyone have one of these in a drawer somewhere or a source for one of these switches? Thanks, Lenny

It's very possible that the difference as you say could just be cosmetic bu t I would hate to assume that. Lenny