supplying accurate output voltage < input voltage

Jun 15, 2012 46 Replies

I suggested that to the guy who makes them. It would be great if you could set 5 CFM on the dial and be done with it. Roughly how much more expensive would that be? The web link you gave for the brushless DC motor is $1300. He charges $250 for this motor.

Not much in my experience, I'm adjusting the rheostat manually and if I were standing by it, I could adjust the flow well enough.

No, it's a low volume of air. However it pushes the air at high pressure, because it has to go through many feet of hose. He said it has high static pressure. Do you know how that changes the controller picture?

It's an industrial safety device actually.

Yes, the brushes have worn out twice on me already. The motor just quits without warning :( and exposes me to allergens. That gives me an idea though - if you open the motor housing, is it easy to tell how worn the brushes are?

Laura

er than the voltage.

It's the motor itself that needs to be controlled. It gets too noisy at high speed. Laura

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It's actually an industrial safety device. It's for use in environments that aren't immediately dangerous to life or health. Autobody workers use such respirators, because they work with chemicals like isocyanates that won't immediately cause damage, but you don't want to be breathing them long-term. If it fails on me I get sick for several days.

Laura

How close to maximum speed are you running the motor? If somewhere around 1/2 then there are pretty simple circuits that use feedback from the motor to regulate speed. I could email you a schematic of one. But a universal motor is a bad choice for this application. Cheap though. Another solution may be a CPAP machine. They are for forcing air down a snoring person's nasal passages to keep them breathing and stop the snoring. These devices are similar to your machine but have much better air pressure regulation and are quieter. I don't know if they put out as much air as you need because they are made for sleeping people but the one I have is adjustable to pretty high pressure and volume. They are available used for pretty cheap. Call a local Senior Center. The one I use is over 6 years old and still works great, especially considering it gets used every night. Eric

If it's a universal motor, it will run on DC, right?

So... How about using Zener diodes to regulate the voltage? Cheap and simple -- in theory.

Yes, you can inspect the brushes. Normally they should still have enough on them to have a good spring holding tension against the commutator.. Many of them put a mark on the side of the brush or crimp something on the lead wire to indicate when they should be changed.

Also, if you have gone through that many brushes already, it's a good chance the commutator is close to its life cycle. You need to inspect it for uneven surface wear which may include deep grooves.

Jamie

Much less than 1/2 max speed, I think. I measured the voltage the rheostat is outputting at my usual setting, and I was surprised to see it was 104 V, with ~ 120 V input. Ideally I'd have an inline sensor to measure air speed in the hose, and if the air speed is outside a preset range, the sensor would raise or lower the voltage.

An airline respirator has a powerful motor for pushing air through a long length of hose, unlike a CPAP machine.

Laura

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