LCD televisions more reliable than CRT based ones?

I regard LCD as less reliable and more unfixable. Good luck getting 20 years out of the LCD model.

Point taken

Maybe I better stick with a crt based TV huh?

In sci.electronics.repair on Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:38:20 -0600 snipped-for-privacy@privacy.net posted:

Don't throw it away. That's incredibly wasteful. Give it to me. I live alone too, and when I want to get HD, I'll get one tuner that I'll put where my VCR is now, and use the same distribution system I have now to send the signal to the tvs I have in most of the other rooms. (Upstairs: Bedroom, Office, Bathroom. First floor: Living room, kitchen. Basement: "Club room", laundry room. Attic. I didn't really a cable outlet in the laundry but it only took about 15 minutes and cost less than a dollar, so what the heck.

If you don't want to give it to me, give it to Goodwill Industries.

Even if such tuners didn't exist, there will still be people happy to have an analog tv until the last station is off the air, and after that they can use them to play dvds and tapes.

Meirman

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In sci.electronics.repair on Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:16:14 -0500 "JANA" posted:

But most of them don't break anyhow.

Will be? But he's buying one now. If he wants to see which looks better now, he can go to the store and look at each of them.

(Don't look at cartoons btw. They almost always look great. Look at a complicated picture with lots of little things)

It is now a question of what you are willing to

That can mean different things to different people. I though that LED monitors were light until I actually picked one up. I guess not as heavy as a crt monitor the same size, but much heavier than it looked.

I think of it as a dust remover for my house. Once it's in the set, I never see it again. Seriously, I have a dusty house and for a while I had smoke film from a badly adjusted oil furnace. Didn't affect the tvs, except I had to clean the screen of some of them. Not sure if an LCD screen would have gotten dirty too, but maybe.

These problems are not common anymore either. I did once walk by one tv with a big magnet from a hifi speaker, but the built-in degausser that all color sets have got rid of the problem after a couple weeks.

Haven't seen any or much of these two either.

And I get all my tvs when they are several years old.

I did buy one new, a 12" color years ago when 210 dollars was the cheapest they had. AOx something brand. It broke several times and finally I couldn't fix it anymore. Don't think it was the picture though. One time it was the turn on relay.

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Eventually you won't have a choice, but tube technology is old and well known. For now it's a better bet. 8mm movie cameras are also reliable and robust, but they're a bad economic choice now compared to a camcorder.

If CRT sets were so reliable, I would have been unemployed years ago!!! It is the LCD sets that I fear that will put more TV service people out of work.

In our IT support area, we have been working with LCD monitors for about 3 to 4 years now (from when they first came out in mass), and have had very few few failures. The newer ones are even better than that of a year ago!!!

In the higher end models, they are looking more like the CRT monitors for their look and they way that they display images. The new 8 ms ones are actualy faster for the refresh rate, than the CRT monitors. The fast CRT monitors are about 10 to 12 ms.

I'll stick to the LCD monitors!

Jerry G. ======

In article , JANA writes

That's not true, the picture on an LCD set is nowhere near as good as a good CRT. Try watching a night time scene, you get a clear picture on a CRT but you can't see anything on the LCD.

How much longer do you think before you wont even be able to buy a CRT based TV?

is it as short as two years maybe?

What kind of distribution system do you have and how does it work? You've caught my interest on this system you have.

You have not seen some really high end LCD monitors!

Jerry G. ======

I have been to some computer stores, that don't even stock CRT monitors any more. There are fewer models available as time goes on. I read some articles that there will no longer be CRT monitors or TV sets to be available in about 3 to 5 years.

Maybe some countries like China may produce some low end CRT monitors just to fill in the markets where there are people who really want a CRT monitor no matter what. This is soon to be seen.

Jerry G. ======

Even that is doubtful. It'll be a price driven process. All over the world there are millions? of old standard 8mm movie cameras. Good luck buying film. I have a couple of CED disk players and 200 movies. Good luck getting parts. Some people still have Beta VCRs. I haven't seen tape for a long time. Obsolescence is now a fact of life.

More like ten.

First things first, LCDs have to cost less.

On 30 Mar 2005 02:54:22 -0800, "Jerry G." put finger to keyboard and composed:

LCD monitors/TVs may be more reliable (???), but I expect they will all need a lamp and/or inverter replacement at some time in their lives. That said, I guess it's a job anyone could do with minimal training.

- Franc Zabkar

LCD backlights are too fragile to be replaced. Look at the lamp funny and it'll break. Ask a company to ship you one and they'll just laugh.

years

Not nessesarily, I would say an LCD TV should be more reliable than a modern CRT TV, usually the first thing to go is the backlight tube and they last almost as long as a modern CRT. Also there's very little in the way of high power electronics which are the most common failures in a CRT display.

LCD

soon

It depends. The geometry, convergence and purity will be dead-on perfect, something that's just not generally possible with a CRT. The thing I notice with LCD TV's is that I can usually see some visible pixelation or compression artifacts, hard to explain it but scenery like blue sky tends to make it really stand out and to my eye it just generally looks like crap. The small size is handy though, and for some material the picture looks just fine. Of course I haven't looked at any high end LCD stuff, just the TV's they have at Costco and whatnot.

Huh? I've replaced about half a dozen of them without much trouble, new CCFL lamps are readily available and not terribly expensive.

I would predict CRT sets will be reasonably obtainable for another 10 years or so, there's enough people out there who demand a CRT for one reason or another and it'll be at least a few years before the cost is comparable to a CRT. Something better than LCD will have to come along to kill CRT entirely, perhaps if OLED really matures, though they may never resolve the lifespan issue.