Digital vs Analog cordless Phone? Health Radiation is the same?

Dec 19, 2008 27 Replies

bought Siemens Gigaset A580 from Australia but my call waiting did not work in Canada, actually I had to disconnect current conversation in order to answer new incoming call. Besides that, I liked that phone because it had Eco Mode PLUS (the phone is dead now). Now the problem is that in Canada and US we can not buy Eco Mode PLUS phone, we can only buy Eco Mode which means base station is pulsing/radiating ALL THE TIME. I would appreciate if you can help me to choose a new cordless phone for my home (even if it's an older type as long as it has call display and call waiting). Please help me choose the phone and please explain what technology and why (analog, digital, 2.4GHz, 5.8GHz, etc).

This posting is spew from 2008, but still interesting.

How low in radiation do you want? The typical cordless phone radiates about 5 to 10 milliwatts of RF. Using an SAR model, that would be about 0.005 to 0.01 watt/kg exposure as compared to maybe 1 watt/kg for a cell phone. The FCC limit is 1.6 watts/kg.

Also, there's no connection between cell phone (and by implication cordless phone) radiation and brain cancer. Here's the incidence of new cases of brain and central nervous system cancers in 9 major metro areas: Note that the graph is almost flat over the last 30 years. Since about 1990, cell phone use has increase exponentially each year. If there were a connection, I would expect the incidence of cancers to have increased, which they have not.

Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Nope. Long wave or far IR is heat. Short wave or near IR is ummmm... near IR. Note that there are various division of IR:

Nope. I can prove it with a simple test. Heat up a frying pan and put it in front of IR receiver window in your TV, hi-fi, or whatever. That should belch many watts of heat in the IR region. Then try using the IR remote control. It will work because the 8000-15000 nanometer wavelength of the IR "heat" from the frying pan is quite different from the 850 nanometer wavelength of the IR emitter in your remote control.

Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Try that outdoors, in the bright sunlight where it isn't a narrow slice of IR.

Yep. An IR cordless phone probably won't work outdoors.

See my comments in this thread on the IR paging system I helped design. Solar and inside lighting interference were major problems. The solar spectra contains plenty of near IR radiation, that does a splendid job of trashing IR data. However, if the IR beam can be controlled to a small spot size with lenses and filters and sunlight excluded with baffles and shades, high speed IR data is possible. Due to fear of RF, the local hospital has a bunch of IR ethernet links on the rooftops. Those are great fun shooting over the freeway, where the rising hot air from the vehicles causes all kinds of strange propagation effects.

Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

What do you await. A horn growing out of the head?

Long time meat consume dazzles the mind too, as per an U.K. survey. Makes more prepared to take risks, respectively, they can't estimate risks as good as they can while normal biological operation.

Daniel Mandic

The poor fools never stop to think about the broadband radiation from our sun. I used to dread the 'Solar outages' on C-band when I worked in CATV & broadcast. No matter how much advance warning you gave, idiots would jam the phone lines, day after day as they lost their garbage TV for a minute or so. The sat's EIRP was over 100W at 4 GHz, and the sun swamped it easily.

It still happens today with Ka and Ku band solar outages, when the sun gets behind the satellite belt twice a year. I used to announce the solar outages on a local newsgroup for a different reason. I live in a forest, where locating suitable locations for a DBS dish is tricky. The easiest way is to wait for when the sun gets behind the desired satellite, and photograph the roof during the outage. That's where a dish will work. Here's some of my photos for DirecTV at 101w. Note the shadows from the tree branches on my dish indicating I have a blockage problem. I don't post the outage predictions any more because with the current HDTV satellite distribution, it takes 3-5 satellites for full coverage, which is impossible through all the trees.

Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

I no longer work with any Sat, so I'm not the one that catches hell for it when 10,000 people lose HBO on a cable system. At least with KU band you need a smaller break in the trees than you needed with a five meter fiberglass dish with multiple feedhorns for a CATV headend. That was back when a 100°K LNA & 3" Heliax was common. :)

The trees here used to be thicker than that, till two years of high hurricane activity a few years back. Now about 90% of the bigh trees are gone, leaving the shorter & stronger trees behind.

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