dialup issues

Ummm... ANAC numbers from Wikipedia:

You should be able to find quiet line numbers with Google.

Please provide any number that you know. I am willing to bet that it is industry standard.

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How about that. Many 555-#### numbers are various diagnostic systems.

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How much would you like to bet? The ANAC, ANI, DAMT, quiet line, milliwatt tone, etc test numbers vary between locations, CO's, type of switch, and companies. Same with quiet line numbers, security, test equipment, procedures, and standards. AT&T is fairly standardized throughout the system. I don't have a clue what Verizon does as everything I work with locally uses AT&T.

However, if you want numbers to abuse, this might help. It's 10 year old, but looks accurate.

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Nope. Except for directory assistance, the 555 prefix is reserved for "fake" phone numbers, as used in movies and videos.

I hate when they use a 555 number in a movie. For gosh sakes, how stupid would someone have to be to think the number they give in a movie is really the number of someone like the character in the movie? Calling those numbers should seem like calling random numbers. **

I also hate it when they remove t he rear-view mirrors of movie cars. I've seen a few movies where they leave the rear view mirror and it looks a lot better. It doesn't distract from the actors. It's a much bigger distraction when it's not there.

On Law & Order, they always give the address of tte place they are going. Often it's in the East River or Hudson River, but it still indicates teh area they have in mind. Other times it would be in a real block, residential even, but I assume the number they give is between two real addresses. I have a good friend at W. 85th and Columbus, and according to Law & Order, a lot goes on within a block of her apartment.

In grammar school, the phone guy told me the number to get it to ring back. 1197 and 1191, but they don't work now where I live now. Didnt' when I checked 30 years ago. They are very useful if one is sick in bed and wants to call his mother. who is downstairs.

I assume you mean the box down the road is alerting, not your individual dsl boxes in the homes.

the box down the road is monitored from the central office, where it is decided when an anomaly is turned into a ticket, and when it is decided the problem is fixed, the sms'es are sent.

I don't think the box down the corner has any "free will" to generate sms'es.

Of cause I could be wrong...

Leif

Den 17/02/2013, skrev micky:

You would be amazed about the stupidity of people.

And if Dark Knight Rises grossed 1.1billion, average $10 per ticket, and one in a million will call a number in a movie, that gives 1000 calls.

Would you like to get 1000 calls asking for Batman?

Some rock band in the mid '80s recorded a song with a real phone number in it, and idiots all over the country were calling it. Since they didn't give an area code, there were a lot of people being harassed, some around the clock. Of course, what could you expect from the MTV drones?

Yes, BUT. The router I have is roughly equivalent to a 2005 computer in terms of processor capability, RAM, offline storage (ROM), IO (one USB port, 4 ethernet ports, one VDSL modem, one 802.11n multichannel access point).

It can run three virtual internet sessions for tunneling, two for me, one for a separate public network.

It can provide a disk server or a print server via the USB.

I expect it can't send SMSs because it has no cellular connection, but it may well be able to use a channel on the DSL line private to the phone company for sending trouble tickets, etc.

Probably.

I don't know. My asterisk system has a cellular modem used as a phone so I can receive and make calls and SMSs over the cellular network. It can send me SMS's on its own.

Or to be more accurate, it COULD if I had anything programmed to triger them. What I do have is set of PERL programs that run on a different computer and when I run them, ssh into the asterisk system to send SMSs.

The other way, the asterisk system receives the SMS and emails it to me.

Note that some routers have USB ports programmed to connect to the cellular network with modem sticks. I also have one of those used for emergency backup.

I assume you could run DD-WRT on them and a stripped down Asterisk system which could send SMS's based upon pre-programmed conditions (but not free will, as in "I'm lonely. Please log into me".

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Tommy Two Tone was the group, and that was the 80's song "8675309". People all over the country had to get their numbers changed because of that song.

Well I finally dug a path through the snow out to the interface and plugged my laptop directly into into it using a 6 foot cable and guess what? A 26.4K connection! So I called the phone company to complain, and (it was Saturday) but the rep told me that she would run it by the technician on Tuesday and get back to me, disturbingly adding that she "wasn't sure if they could do anything about it". Then she further disturbingly added the usual cover their asses statement that if it is determined that there was no problem with the telephone company's lines, "a service charge would apply".

Well this really pissed me off, and I told her that as far as I know if I plugged into their interface and duplicated my problem then the trouble is NOT premises related, it is THEIR's and therefore I cannot be charged for a service call which they might make of their own volition or of my request. Did I imagine that or is that a fact? I added that if they sent a tech over I could easily demonstrate at the interface that I can get a 45K connection on one line and only a 26.4K connection on the other. I would take that service charge if I ever got one to the PUC if I had to

What actually are my rights here? This is a business line. Is the phone company "required" to provide me with a line that I can get full dial up bandwidth on? Can I legally push this issue with them? Or can they really turn around and say "sorry Charlie but we're providing you with voice communications and we can't do anything about your dialup speed issue. Lenny

They are required to inform you that charges may apply, even if they are unlikely, just in case you want additional work done when they arrive. That's because someone sued and won claiming that Ma Bell didn't warn them that they would be charged for on premesis work. Strictly speaking, if the telephone tech even steps into your house, you could get a bill. I also know of one local tech that would claim he did inside work, when the owner never let him in the house or was away when the tech arrived. The solution is simple... don't let the tech in the house if you don't want to pay.

Nice try. I don't know how it works in your area, but in the Peoples Republic of California, the PUC (public utilities commish) has separated the voice monopoly and data portions of the operation. You are guaranteed by the monopoly to have acceptable voice service. You are NOT guaranteed to be able to use the line for data at anything faster than 2400 baud. AT&T will make an effort to get it working to V.32 (9600 baud), but no higher. The reason is not crappy wiring. It's the large number of SLC, pair gain, and remote terminal systems that have saved AT&T considerable expense by not requiring a metallic pair back to the CO (central office). These are good for voice, but will generally limit your modem connection to about 26Kbit/sec because of the reduced bandwidth. If you want faster dialup, you'll need a metallic pair. The only way I've found to guess if it's an SLC, Pair Gain, or metallic pair is the frequency response test from the USR modem that I previously mentioned.

It depends on your state public utilities commission rules. What state or country are you in? The rules might be available online.

Not in California. Business lines actually have less "rights" than consumer lines, even though you pay more.

Are you a lawyer? Do you have a large bank account? If not, I suspect you may be tilting at windmills.

Yes, they can probably do exactly that. In California, if you complain to AT&T about data speeds, they will instantly suggest you buy their new and improved U-Verse data service (ADSL2+) and generally ignore all modem complaints. This has been an occasional problem with older credit card machines, that use dialup lines and internal modems. The result is that the business owner gets burned for a new terminal that does credit card verifications over the internet instead of dialup.

We're in New Hampshire. I don't know what the PUC rules are here either except that it seems like the utilities, telephone as well as electric have always seemed to have the PUC in their pockets. I think that I might have an idea as to how to approach this problem though. Several months ago I complained to the phone company about a strange random "Boing Boing" sound on my lines that would come and go during a conversation with someone. The noise was unpredictable, would usually last about a minute, was almost deafening at times and could only be heard by me and never by the person on the other end of the line. They never could verify my complaint, I'm certain that they never fixed it and it hasn't happened for awhile now. Perhaps I should remind them of this "continuing" problem that I've been living with that has apparently affected my dialup speed as well. Lenny.

Same as in most states. The regulators are now regulated by those that they were assigned to regulate. The world turned upside down.

When that fails, start here: I don't see anything on the site for datacomm complaints. This should be a clue that they don't want to hear those.

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Thanks. You warned me that they vary.

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The lady from telephone repair called me back this morning and told me they will be coming out to my house tomorrow to do "some rewiring". I asked if they'll need to get into my house to do this, (just to be sure I knew what she was talking about) and she said no. I then asked the 64,000 dollar question. "Will there be a charge for this"? And again it was no. "They will be working on the wires on the road" I was told. I'm assuming this means a different, (and hopefully better cable pair). Interestingly she asked if I would be home. She said that although I didn't have to be, there would be no way that the technician would be able to tell if my dialup was improved unless we plugged my laptop into the interface while he was there. I was surprised that they would have no way to assess dialup capabilities of a pots line. They must have to do this for DSL don't they? So why couldn't they assess dialup? Lenny

They use test equipmet made to test phone lines. Usually a TDR, and maybe a BER testset.

Locally, the DSL and POTS installers carry an Acterna/JDSU HST-3000 telecom tester. I used to have one (until it was stolen) so I'm rather familiar with what it can do. Ethernet testing is built into the base unit. There are plugins for various line types, including POTS, ADSL, ADSL2+, T1, VoIP, fiber, and V.34 (33.6K) modems. However, I don't think they have a V.42bis plugin (not sure). Whether the installer actually knows how to use the tester is another horror story. I've seen both extremes.

Some of the DSL data of my friends and customers from this tester:

Sniff.... I miss my tester.