beware of the updates you install

and the gold on the circuit boards, the ceramic strips, the laced wiring harnesess and that "built to lst feel."

\ It used to be necessary to optimise this and that, but now with the extra cpu power available I don't dick with things, and simply install all suggested updates. And guess what - zero problems for years now .

geoff

I like commercial myself. Hourses for courses...

I have a netbook with XP that I need to talk to my

Two things:

and

Fiddy-nine bux, baybee! Plus you can get the VM of Win7 perfectly stable, copy it and always have a place to roll back to. If the refurb is a better solution then awesome.

You don't even need to burn a DVD - just point Virtualbox at the .iso and go.

On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 09:19:21 -0800 "dave" wrote in article

Mac OSX was derived from Berkeley Unix. Linux was written from the ground up.

When I talk about optimization, I mean in terms of how you want to use the computer, and the things necessary to create an appropriate (and safe) working environment. These vary from user to user.

Well, I had a problem -- and I don't believe it was caused by incomplete installation of the updates I'd perceived as dangerous.

I could try installing them again, and see what happens, knowing I can almost certainly reverse the installation. (The worst that could happen is having to reinstall Office 2000.) But I'm not going to. It isn't worth the trouble.

Lots of formats supported natively, both read and write of course.

Or the free radicals. "Oh James, _do_ be careful"

Leif

sctvguy1 Inscribed thus:

Been running Linux since early 92-93.

Very true !

Jeff Henig Inscribed thus:

Download and burn a live CD and have a play with it...

dave Inscribed thus:

I agree ! You can still play with your Lego toys. But why DirectX ?

I like commercial operating systems too, and that is why I am so upset that Microsoft and their financing model has driven most other commercial operating systems out of the market.

There's Solaris. And there are some commercial Linux releases like Red Hat and SuSE that give you commercial-grade support even if they don't give you commercial-grade product up-front. And there's _sort of_ VMS for a little while anyway.

But since the demise of BeOS there are NO realtime operating systems intended for desktop use. There are some linux versions with "soft-realtime" extensions and there are a lot of embedded system RTOSes and there's sort of QNX if you can get them to deign to speak to a mere customer.

But I really would like to see a purpose-built DAW again, on a platform designed for the job.

--scott

BOTTOM POST QUESTION.

SOMEONE CLAIMED THEY USED TO WORK FOR MICROSOFT, IS IT TRUE THAT AT THEIR CORPORATE OFFICES THEY DID NOT USE WINDOWS ? (they use(d) Linux) ?

Or is that an urban legend ?

Seriously, I heard TWO people tell me that. Is it true, or WAS it ?

I was forced back onto that recently. Quite unpleasant. The Linuces are much more advanced. They were actually going to Linux as the solution to that.

Dunno what's not "commercial grade" about it; it's fine. The general package management problem in Linux still persists.

Not a big fan of VMS.

Hm. Well, I don't have much trouble with that. For "realtime", we just write drivers. It's not a desktop, but it could be. All you really need is one free hardware timer.

The various Atmel sized processors really kind of make a realtime desktop moot. There's stuff like the Raspberry PI and cubieBoard that can do all that as well.

It might be prohibitive, but I think you could build a cubieBoard linux that interfaces to one/any of the USB2.0 interfaces using ALSA . It has HDMI, so there's your display solution. Just NFS mount a remote desktop/server/NAS.

If the USB2.0 interface has MIDI, you have a control surface solution.

Since the demise of WindRiver, it's pretty much all been Linux that I could tell.

There are curious variations on the theme, like standalone VST hosts.

I kinda don't see the point of it. You can run any of the COTS DAW packages on a stripped-down machine.

And isn't Otari still shipping RADAR?

It simply isn't true. The last time I worked there was in 2011, I believe, and Microsoft used Windows.

Who knows.

But, don't forget that once upon a time, Microsoft was in the Unix business. In the early eighties they had their own version, Xenix, and it was a legit version of Unix, done in conjunction with SCO. You could get it for Radio Shack's 68000 computer, and for 8086 (I think) computers.

I can certainly seem them using fancier computers for development.

Michael

I'm so glad I dumped Windows and switched to Linux back in 05.

Scott

My situation has nothing whatever to do with Windows. Or any other operating system. That should have been clear from what I posted.

I find it amusing that some peoples' OSs appear to give them stiffies.

Unless the OS is actually a (real, not just perceived or religous) problem, the whole point is the APPLICATIONS !

geoff

Which is why I've stayed with Windows.