ôÁË ×ÓÅ ÖÅ, ËÔÏ-ÎÉÂÕÄØ ÛÉÌ PIC12F675 Ó ÐÏÍÏÝØÀ IcProg ? õ ÍÅÎÑ ÕÖÅ ×ÓÅ ÍÙÓÌÉ ÚÁËÏÎÞÉÌÉÓØ - ÐÏÞÅÍÕ ÜÔÁ ÄÒÑÎØ ÕÐÏÒÎÏ ÎÅ ÖÅÌÁÅÔ ÓÔÉÒÁÔØÓÑ É ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ...
VB> ôÁË ×ÓÅ ÖÅ, ËÔÏ-ÎÉÂÕÄØ ÛÉÌ PIC12F675 Ó ÐÏÍÏÝØÀ IcProg ? õ ÍÅÎÑ ÕÖÅ ×ÓÅ VB> ÍÙÓÌÉ ÚÁËÏÎÞÉÌÉÓØ - ÐÏÞÅÍÕ ÜÔÁ ÄÒÑÎØ ÕÐÏÒÎÏ ÎÅ ÖÅÌÁÅÔ ÓÔÉÒÁÔØÓÑ VB> É ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ...
ñ ÐÏÌØÚÕÀÓØ KovPIC (aka COMPIC-1). ðỊ̈Ô ×ÐÏÌÎÅ ÎÏÒÍÁÌØÎÙÊ. ôÏÌØËÏ ÇÁÌËÕ ÐÏÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ ÎÁÄÏ "ÉÎ×ÅÒÔÉÒÏ×ÁÔØ ×ÈÏÄ ÄÁÎÎÙÈ". äÏ Ó×ÑÚÉ, Vladislav! /Edward/ LocalDate 22 Nov 03 - LocalTime 09:45 ...
Какой именно программатор ? Мы тоже перебрали все возможные варианты с PIC12F675, PIC18F... - ну никак шиться не хотели... Схема была shaer+...
Потом спаяли другой программатор tait serial programmer и все завелось - похоже дело было в том, что перепутана были коммутация PGM и Vcc (у tait они на LPT заводятся в обратном порядке).
В процессе экспериментов пару PIC-ов сожгли :)
*** 22 Nov 03 14:03, Alexey G Nalimov wrote to Vladislav Baliasov:
AN> ëÁËÏÊ ÉÍÅÎÎÏ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÁÔÏÒ ?
öÅÌÅÚÏ ? éÄÅÑ JDMÏ×ÓËÁÑ, ÎÏ "ÞÅÓÔÎÁÑ" ÒÅÁÌÉÚÁÃÉÑ ÓÏÐÒÑÖÅÎÉÑ (MAX232, ÉÎ×ÅÒÔÏÒÙ, ËÌÀÞÉ 4066 ÎÁ ËÏÍÍÕÔÁÃÉÉ ÓÉÇÎÁÌÏ× É Vpp - ÐÏÓËÏÌØËÕ ÍÎÅ ÎÕÖÎÏ ICSP ÐÏ ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏÓÔÉ ÂÅÚ ÒÁÓÓÔÙËÏ×ËÉ). äÕÍÁÌ ÂÙÌÏ, ÞÔÏ ÐÅÒÅÍÕÄÒÉÌ ÓÏ ÓÈÅÍÏÔÅÈÎÉËÏÊ - ÎÅ, ×ÒÏÄÅ ×ÓÅ ÞÅÓÔÎÏ, ÓËÁÖÅÍ, 16F84 ÛØÅÔ ÎÏÒÍÁÌØÎÏ, Á 675 ÞÉÔÁÅÔ, ÎÏ ÎÅ ÐÉÛÅÔ ÎÉ ÐÁÍÑÔØ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍ, ÎÉ ÄÁÎÎÙÈ, ÎÉ ËÏÎÆÉÇÕÒÁÃÉÀ.AN> ðÏÔÏÍ ÓÐÁÑÌÉ ÄÒÕÇÏÊ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÁÔÏÒ tait serial programmer É ×ÓÅ ÚÁ×ÅÌÏÓØ AN> - ÐÏÈÏÖÅ ÄÅÌÏ ÂÙÌÏ × ÔÏÍ, ÞÔÏ ÐÅÒÅÐÕÔÁÎÁ ÂÙÌÉ ËÏÍÍÕÔÁÃÉÑ PGM É Vcc (Õ AN> tait ÏÎÉ ÎÁ LPT ÚÁ×ÏÄÑÔÓÑ × ÏÂÒÁÔÎÏÍ ÐÏÒÑÄËÅ).
õ ÍÅÎÑ Vcc É Vpp ÐÏÄÁÅÔÓÑ ÏÄÎÏ×ÒÅÍÅÎÎÏ, ÐÒÏÂÏ×ÁÌ Vcc ÏÓÔÁ×ÌÑÔØ ÐÏÓÔÏÑÎÎÏ ÐÏÄËÌÀÞÅÎÎÙÍ - ËÁÒÔÉÎÁ ÉÚÏÆÁÌÌÉÞÅÓËÁÑ ;) äÌÉÔÅÌØÎÏÓÔØ ÆÒÏÎÔÁ Vpp ÔÏÖÅ × ÎÏÒÍÅ - ÏËÏÌÏ 0.5 uS. é, ÐÏÔÏÍ, ÞÉÔÁÔØ-ÔÏ ÞÉÔÁÅÔ - ÚÎÁÞÉÔ, × ÒÅÖÉÍ ×ÈÏÄÉÔ. ôÅÐÅÒØ ÅÝÅ ÂÙ ÓÏÏÂÒÁÚÉÔØ, ÇÄÅ ÓÏÂÁËÁ ÐÏÒÙÌÁÓØ... Ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ ÷ÌÁÄÉÓÌÁ×Hi *Vladislav*!
VB> ôÁË ×ÓÅ ÖÅ, ËÔÏ-ÎÉÂÕÄØ ÛÉÌ PIC12F675 Ó ÐÏÍÏÝØÀ IcProg ? õ ÍÅÎÑ ÕÖÅ VB> ×ÓÅ ÍÙÓÌÉ ÚÁËÏÎÞÉÌÉÓØ - ÐÏÞÅÍÕ ÜÔÁ ÄpÑÎØ ÕÐÏpÎÏ ÎÅ ÖÅÌÁÅÔ VB> ÓÔÉpÁÔØÓÑ É ÐpÏÇpÁÍÍÉpÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ...
ïÞÅÎØ ÈÏpÏÛÏ ÛØÅÔÓÑ. úÁÊÄÉ ÎÁ pic16f84.nfrod.ru ÔÁÍ ÅÓÔØ ÐpÏÓÔÏÊ ÐpÏÇpÁÍÍÁÔÏp, ÐÁÑÅÔÓÑ ÎÁ ËÏÌÅÎËÅ ÚÁ ÐÏÌÞÁÓÁ. ðpÏÇpÁÍÍÎÏÅ ÏÂÅÓÐÅÞÅÎÉÅ ÅÓÔØ Ó×ÏÅ É ÍÏÖÎÏ IcProg.Always yours Vladimir
Hello, Vladislav! You wrote to Alexey G Nalimov on Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:06:09 +0300:
VB> ÉÎ×ÅÒÔÏÒÙ, ËÌÀÞÉ 4066 ÎÁ ËÏÍÍÕÔÁÃÉÉ ÓÉÇÎÁÌÏ× É VB> Vpp ^^^^^^^^^
á ÓËÏÌØËÏ ÏÎ ÐÏÔÒÅÂÌÑÅÔ _ÐÒÉ_ _ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÉ_ ?With best regards, Alexander Derazhne.
*** 22 Nov 03 19:15, Alexander Derazhne wrote to Vladislav Baliasov:
VB>> ÉÎ×ÅÒÔÏÒÙ, ËÌÀÞÉ 4066 ÎÁ ËÏÍÍÕÔÁÃÉÉ ÓÉÇÎÁÌÏ× É VB>> Vpp
AD> ^^^^^^^^^
AD> á ÓËÏÌØËÏ ÏÎ ÐÏÔÒÅÂÌÑÅÔ _ÐÒÉ_ _ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÉ_ ?
ñËÏÂÙ ÎÉÓËÏÌØËÏ (ÐÏ Vpp, × ÓÍÙÓÌÅ). Ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ ÷ÌÁÄÉÓÌÁ×Saturday November 22 2003 23:58, Alexander Derazhne wrote to Vladislav Baliasov:
AD>>> á ÓËÏÌØËÏ ÏÎ ÐÏÔÒÅÂÌÑÅÔ _ÐÒÉ_ _ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÉ_ ? AD>
VB>> ñËÏÂÙ ÎÉÓËÏÌØËÏ (ÐÏ Vpp, × ÓÍÙÓÌÅ). AD>
AD> üÔÏ Ñ×ÎÏ ÔÁË ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ? 84-ÙÊ ÐÏ ÄÏËÅ - ÄÏ 50Íá, Á ÔÕÔ (?)
þÅÇÏ??? 50Íá ÐÏ Vpp ÜÔÏ Õ ïôò-ÞÉÐÏ×, Õ 84-È - ×ÓÀ ÖÉÚÎØ ÂÙÌÏ 0 Íá, ÐÏÓËÏÌØËÕ ÜÔÏ ÐÏ ÓÕÔÉ ÎÅ ÎÁÐÒÑÖÅÎÉÅ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÅ, Á _ÓÉÇÎÁÌ_ ÐÅÒÅÈÏÄÁ × ÒÅÖÉÍ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÑ. õ 675-È ÎÅ ÍÅÒÑÌ, ÎÏ ÄÕÍÁÀ ÞÔÏ Õ ×ÓÅÈ ÆÌÅÛÏ×ÁÎÎÙÈ - ÔÁËÖÅ ËÁË Õ ÉÈ "ÒÏÄÉÔÅÌÑ", 84-ÇÏ.Alexander Torres, 2:461/28 aka 2:461/640.28 aka 2:5020/6400.28 aka snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com
Hello, Vladislav! You wrote to Alexander Derazhne on Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:06:13 +0300:
AD>> á ÓËÏÌØËÏ ÏÎ ÐÏÔÒÅÂÌÑÅÔ _ÐÒÉ_ _ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÉ_ ?
VB> ñËÏÂÙ ÎÉÓËÏÌØËÏ (ÐÏ Vpp, × ÓÍÙÓÌÅ).
üÔÏ Ñ×ÎÏ ÔÁË ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ? 84-ÙÊ ÐÏ ÄÏËÅ - ÄÏ 50Íá, Á ÔÕÔ (?) ÐÒÏÓËÁËÉ×ÁÌÏ, ÞÔÏ ÓÎÁÞÁÌÏ ÍÎÏÇÏ ÍÅÎØÛÅ, ÎÏ ÐÏ ÍÅÒÅ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÎÉÑ ÒÅÓÕÒÓÁ ÆÌÅÛËÉ ÎÁÞÉÎÁÅÔ ÐÒÉÂÌÉÖÁÔØÓÑ Ë ÐÁÓÐÏÒÔÎÏÍÕ ÚÎÁÞÅÎÉÀ. íÏÖÅÔ É Õ ÜÔÉÈ ÔÁË ÖÅ? óÏÐÒÏÔÉ×ÌÅÎÉÅ ËÁÎÁÌÁ ÐÒÉ 5-ÔÉ ×ÏÌØÔÏ×ÏÍ ÐÉÔÁÎÉÉ Õ ËÌÀÞÅÊ ÄÏ×ÏÌØÎÏ ×ÙÓÏËÏÅ...With best regards, Alexander Derazhne.
*** 22 Nov 03 23:58, Alexander Derazhne wrote to Vladislav Baliasov:
AD>>> á ÓËÏÌØËÏ ÏÎ ÐÏÔÒÅÂÌÑÅÔ _ÐÒÉ_ _ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÉ_ ?
VB>> ñËÏÂÙ ÎÉÓËÏÌØËÏ (ÐÏ Vpp, × ÓÍÙÓÌÅ).
AD> üÔÏ Ñ×ÎÏ ÔÁË ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ? 84-ÙÊ ÐÏ ÄÏËÅ - ÄÏ 50Íá,
50 mA - ÜÔÏ ÐÏ Vcc, Á ÐÏ "×ÙÓÏËÏÍÕ" Õ C84/F84 - ÎÅ ÂÏÌÅÅ 200 uA, Á ÄÌÑ 629/675 ÓËÁÚÁÎÏ:Note 1: In the PIC12F629/675, the programming high voltage is internally generated. To activate the Programming mode, high voltage needs to be applied to MCLR input. Since the MCLR is used for a level source, this means that MCLR does not draw any significant current.
AD> ÐÒÉÂÌÉÖÁÔØÓÑ Ë ÐÁÓÐÏÒÔÎÏÍÕ ÚÎÁÞÅÎÉÀ. íÏÖÅÔ É Õ ÜÔÉÈ ÔÁË ÖÅ? AD> óÏÐÒÏÔÉ×ÌÅÎÉÅ ËÁÎÁÌÁ ÐÒÉ 5-ÔÉ ×ÏÌØÔÏ×ÏÍ ÐÉÔÁÎÉÉ Õ ËÌÀÞÅÊ ÄÏ×ÏÌØÎÏ AD> ×ÙÓÏËÏÅ...
õ ÍÅÎÑ É ËÌÀÞÉ ÐÉÔÁÀÔÓÑ ÏÔ 12.6 ×ÏÌØÔ (ÐÏÓËÏÌØËÕ ÏÎÉ ÖÅ É ÐÏÄÁÀÔ Vpp), É ÄÌÑ Vcc ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÕÅÔÓÑ IRFD9120. ðÏÞÉÔÁÌ ÓÓÙÌËÉ - ×ÓÅ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÙ ×ÒÏÄÅ ËÁË Ó×ÏÄÑÔÓÑ Ë RC-ÒÅÖÉÍÕ ÔÁËÔÏ×ÏÇÏ ÇÅÎÅÒÁÔÏÒÁ, ÉÚ-ÚÁ ÎÁÌÉÞÉÑ Vcc ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÕÅÔ, É ËÒÉÓÔÁÌÌ ÎÅ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÕÅÔÓÑ. ïÓÔÁÅÔÓÑ, ÏÄÎÁËÏ, ÎÅÐÏÎÑÔÎÙÍ - ÐÏÞÅÍÕ × ÒÅÖÉÍ ÞÔÅÎÉÑ ÎÏÒÍÁÌØÎÏ ×ÈÏÄÉÔ, ÐÏÞÅÍÕ ÜÔÁ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÁ ÎÅ ×ÙÌÅÚÁÅÔ ÐÒÉ ÐÅÒ×ÏÊ ÖÅ ÐÏÐÙÔËÅ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÑ (ÎÁÒÏÄ ÖÁÌÏ×ÁÌÓÑ, ÞÔÏ ÏÎÏ ÐÏÑ×ÌÑÅÔÓÑ ÐÒÉ ÕÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÅ RC-ÍÏÄÙ - Á ÏÎÉ ÔÁËÉÅ Ó ÚÁ×ÏÄÁ ÐÒÉÈÏÄÑÔ), É Ñ ÉÚÎÁÞÁÌØÎÏ ÐÏÄÁ×ÁÌ Vcc ÏÄÎÏ×ÒÅÍÅÎÎÏ Ó Vpp. ìÁÄÎÏ, ÐÏÐÒÏÂÕÀ ÅÝÅ ÅÇÏ ÚÁÄÅÒÖÁÔØ. éÌÉ, ÄÅÊÓÔ×ÉÔÅÌØÎÏ, ÓÄÅÌÁÀ ÅÝÅ ÏÄÉÎ ×ÁÒÉÁÎÔ ÖÅÌÅÚÁ (ÎÅ ÈÏÔÅÌÏÓØ ÍÎÅ ÎÁ LPT ÅÇÏ ×ÅÛÁÔØ). Ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ ÷ÌÁÄÉÓÌÁ×21 HÏÑ 03 ÇÏÄÁ (Á ÂÙÌÏ ÔÏÇÄÁ 21:45) Vladislav Baliasov × Ó×ÏÅÍ ÐÉÓØÍÅ Ë All ÐÉÓÁÌ:
VB> ôÁË ×ÓÅ ÖÅ, ËÔÏ-ÎÉÂÕÄØ ÛÉÌ PIC12F675 Ó ÐÏÍÏÝØÀ IcProg ? õ ÍÅÎÑ ÕÖÅ ×ÓÅ VB> ÍÙÓÌÉ ÚÁËÏÎÞÉÌÉÓØ - ÐÏÞÅÍÕ ÜÔÁ ÄÒÑÎØ ÕÐÏÒÎÏ ÎÅ ÖÅÌÁÅÔ ÓÔÉÒÁÔØÓÑ VB> É ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ...
E-mail: a_biv<ÓÁÂÁ>rambler.ru ICQ: 226793191
... þÉÓÔÏ ÔÕÔ, ËÁË × ÔÒÁÍ×ÁÅ, ÐÌÀÎÕÔØ ÎÅÇÄÅ. = ð.ð.ûÁÒÉËÏ×.=
Hello, Vladislav! You wrote to Alexander Derazhne on Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:21:56 +0300:
AD>> üÔÏ Ñ×ÎÏ ÔÁË ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ? 84-ÙÊ ÐÏ ÄÏËÅ - ÄÏ 50Íá,
VB> 50 mA - ÜÔÏ ÐÏ Vcc, Á ÐÏ "×ÙÓÏËÏÍÕ" Õ C84/F84 - ÎÅ ÂÏÌÅÅ 200 uA, Á
âÌÉÎ, ÏÔËÕÄÁ-ÖÅ Õ ÍÅÎÑ ÚÁÓÅÌÁ ÜÔÁ ÃÉÆÒØ?!Alexander,Derazhne@adic,kiev,ua (replace commas with dots) Alexander Derazhne
Monday November 24 2003 12:39, Alexander Derazhne wrote to Vladislav Baliasov:
AD> From: "Alexander Derazhne" snipped-for-privacy@adic.kiev.ua>
AD>
AD> Hello, Vladislav! AD> You wrote to Alexander Derazhne on Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:21:56 +0300: AD>
AD>>> üÔÏ Ñ×ÎÏ ÔÁË ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ? 84-ÙÊ ÐÏ ÄÏËÅ - ÄÏ 50Íá, AD>
VB>> 50 mA - ÜÔÏ ÐÏ Vcc, Á ÐÏ "×ÙÓÏËÏÍÕ" Õ C84/F84 - ÎÅ ÂÏÌÅÅ 200 uA, Á AD>
AD> âÌÉÎ, ÏÔËÕÄÁ-ÖÅ Õ ÍÅÎÑ ÚÁÓÅÌÁ ÜÔÁ ÃÉÆÒØ?!
C 16C* (ËÒÏÍÅ ó84), Ô.Å. - Ó ïôò.
Alexander Torres, 2:461/28 aka 2:461/640.28 aka 2:5020/6400.28 aka snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com
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